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|  Educate me on turkey hunting
 #8392983 04/25/25 08:03 PM
04/25/25 08:03 PM
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snowy
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So, I have had gobbling so close to, but they are not coming in.  I'm in the cedars with good vision to open meadows for shooting.  I had one so close today, but he wouldn't show up in the opening.  A hen came in from my back side and walked right by me that gobbling tom.  I never heard that tom again.  Last few days two or three toms answering to my call and fairly close but don't walking.  
 So, you think they are just with hens and hard to pull away or what??
 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8392994 04/25/25 08:20 PM
04/25/25 08:20 PM
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snowy
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Okay!!  I have a jake & hen decoy.  I see them up 300 to 400 feet on ridges in the rock and dirt cliffs gobbling their heads off.  Looking all around trying to see the hen when I'm calling.  A lot of long bearded mature toms. 
 Will it easier to call them in later in season??
 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
[Re: snowy]
 #8392995 04/25/25 08:21 PM
04/25/25 08:21 PM
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Law Dog
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It seems early but try calling softer or not at all make him look for you if you call too much or too loud he might think your coming to him. If he has other hens he has no need to come to you he’s good. I like to mimic the hens cluck for cluck that will often bring in a gobbler sometimes they come in silent so be ready. 
 It’s easy to get caught up in calling but more is not better often and louder is the same not good when they are coming in, if it was me I’d tuck them in tonight then get close to the roost in the morning when it’s dark. Then wait for the first calls and respond accordingly.
 
 Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8392997 04/25/25 08:25 PM
04/25/25 08:25 PM
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snowy
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It seems early but try calling softer or not at all make him look for you if you call too much or too loud he might think your coming to him. If he has other hens he has no need to come to you he’s good. I like to mimic the hens cluck for cluck that will often bring in a gobbler sometimes they come in silent so be ready. 
 It’s easy to get caught up in calling but more is not better often and louder is the same not good when they are coming in, if it was me I’d tuck them in tonight then get close to the roost in the morning when it’s dark. Then wait for the first calls and respond accordingly.
Great advice. I don't call if I one answers. I might after 15 to 20 minutes if he hasn't shown up or I haven't heard him again. 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8393005 04/25/25 08:35 PM
04/25/25 08:35 PM
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Law Dog
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Most folks mainly yelp but clucks and purrs have killed a lot of birds. I react 1 step below the gobblers level if he’s interested I’m a little interested if he’s a little interested I’m less interested.  The hens I go one to one a ticked off hen is a good drawing card. 
 Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
 
 Jerry Herbst
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8393008 04/25/25 08:41 PM
04/25/25 08:41 PM
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A gobbler could be hesitant to come into that opening depending how vulnerable he feels? For a turkey to survive the 2-3 seasons before he can start gobbling, it's the smarter birds that make it.
 But yes if he's henned up, even less chance to get him in. A decoy of a competing male could help?
Who told you that a turkey takes 2-3 seasons to start gobbling? That’s hilarious. 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8393011 04/25/25 08:47 PM
04/25/25 08:47 PM
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snowy
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People say they are so stupid, well I have to disagree on that. 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
[Re: snowy]
 #8393013 04/25/25 08:50 PM
04/25/25 08:50 PM
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Oh they can be stupid, but they are also prey animals and don’t want to be lunch. Lol
 Likely he has hens and is “henned up”
 
 If you can pull some of the hens you might get him to come in with them.
 
 If you know where he likes to go, you can cut him off. When he hits the ground, give some clucks and purrs if he answers don’t call until he gobbles. Get him looking for your reaction and call. If you call and respond to him at his level, he will expect you to come to him, or if he sees where the calling is coming from and doesn’t see a hen, he won’t come. That isn’t natural to them and he won’t know what’s going on.
 
 Less is more sometimes. Good luck.
 
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8393018 04/25/25 08:56 PM
04/25/25 08:56 PM
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Most folks mainly yelp but clucks and purrs have killed a lot of birds. I react 1 step below the gobblers level if he’s interested I’m a little interested if he’s a little interested I’m less interested.  The hens I go one to one a ticked off hen is a good drawing card. Yup 
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8393019 04/25/25 08:57 PM
04/25/25 08:57 PM
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Also try to get above them, hunting eastern turkeys I’ve found its better to get above and call them up hill. Great advice, problem for me is over here on the peninsula, I’d have to climb a tree to get above them. lol.    
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
[Re: snowy]
 #8393021 04/25/25 08:57 PM
04/25/25 08:57 PM
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snowy
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Merriam’s might be different to hunt, and they are pretty savvy here with all the predators after them. 
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
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 #8393025 04/25/25 08:59 PM
04/25/25 08:59 PM
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DelawareRob
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It seems early but try calling softer or not at all make him look for you if you call too much or too loud he might think your coming to him. If he has other hens he has no need to come to you he’s good. I like to mimic the hens cluck for cluck that will often bring in a gobbler sometimes they come in silent so be ready. 
 It’s easy to get caught up in calling but more is not better often and louder is the same not good when they are coming in, if it was me I’d tuck them in tonight then get close to the roost in the morning when it’s dark. Then wait for the first calls and respond accordingly.
Yup 
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
[Re: snowy]
 #8393026 04/25/25 09:01 PM
04/25/25 09:01 PM
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Merriam’s might be different to hunt, and they are pretty savvy here with all the predators after them. Very true! Find a cut off spot if you can pattern him, maybe that’ll work. 
 Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!
 
 Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
[Re: snowy]
 #8393029 04/25/25 09:08 PM
04/25/25 09:08 PM
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Squash
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Like others said, try to mimic the hens and get them fired up and try to call them into range, the gobbler will follow. The problem is not getting busted by the hens before the Tom is in range. 
Last edited by Squash; 04/25/25 09:09 PM.
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|  Re: Educate me on turkey hunting
[Re: snowy]
 #8393038 04/25/25 09:17 PM
04/25/25 09:17 PM
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snowy
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I'll keep at them.  I haven't hunt them any earlier then 11am so far.  I hunt for an hour or two ovah noon, late morning.  I been busy with other stuff at the ranch. 
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