Interesting article.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/0...st-ranchers-more-than-160-000-in-losses/

if so, that is one stupid rancher. SSS

There was a reason wolves were wiped out.

You didn't read the article

Not the cost for the rancher killing a wolf, cost of lost livestock and production

But I agree with your thinking on the SSS

Non-lethal options for deterring wolves could strike a balance between the need to conserve wolves and the need to protect cattle, leaving “no dead cows, and no dead wolves,” she said.

The use of drones to haze wolves away from livestock herds is starting to show promise, she noted. (Wolf and Wildlife Advocates president and founder Kim Bean)


Maybe Kim can get a sign up sheet going around for manning drones 24-7. . .

Side note: I recognize the last name Magagna. When I taught an elective in biology 15+ years ago a short video was incorporated featuring differing sides of the wolf conflict somewhere out west and the name Magagna stuck in my mind. Might be the same fella or a relative.

They tell the ranchers who ranch in wilderness areas it’s their fault for ranching in those areas? Wasn’t the ranchers who brought the wolf problem to their own doorstep.
Welcome to the hotel California er Colorado er whatever…..


Osky

hazing won't help

especially at night

No it was the ranchers that got rid of the problem the first time. The libs brought them back.


Hmm the pro wolf crowd seems to be missing from this thread today for some reason? They have a lot of similarities to the anti kill wolf crouds they don't see. They both live in areas the impact of wolf's is not felt
Those in town and subdivisions or in large wilderness areas it's the same.

They don't deal with the losses on livestock or wilde game populations . They have no clue what it's like to not be legally able to keep the wolf population in check or in most places even kill one you see in the act of killing your stock.

If you watch a wolf kill your livestock and you don’t shoot the wolf because of some law, you’re a pussyy

Around here it’s wolf country. I’m pro wolf because a Trapline would be pretty boring if they weren’t around. They’re easy to manage if you’re allowed. There was some problems last summer nearby, but 11 wolves later leaving at least 2 left makes a difference. The deer pop has a bit better chance to come back, giving this years pups some food without having to harass the cattle that are feeding on their turf, but everything’s fair game. Nobody told the wolf that his land doesn’t belong to him…..lol. We all know that a wolf doesn’t want to screw with momma cow with a calf unless absolutely necessary, momma deer being the less dangerous and the fawn much smaller than a calf, if they can grab it quick and high tail it outta there it’s a nice meal. We live around wolves on their land, but we can deal with them……life’s pretty simple.
Bear on the other hand is much more regulated. Some farmers openly tell an officer or Ag official that they’ll gut shoot em so they run off and die in the bush.

Spot on!

Momma cow and calves are much easier to find in the states than deer fawns and a momma cow isn't much of a threat to wolves because they are so much quicker. A few distract her while one nabs the calf. Plus the cow doesn't stand guard over the calf 24/7.

Agree. I couldn't care less about what the feds or state say on the issue. Or really any issue as it may relate to my farm.

I'll kill, grow, make, hire and do whatever I want.

....uuuuhuh

Round here, they know that one lucky strike from the cow and it’s over for that wolf. But I guess it’s still a problem even after Ag brought John Heart up for a few courses last summer.
This was published this February
https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/livestock/beef-producers-bring-wolf-predation-back-into-spotlight/

MTAs Gord Hannibal puts on a few courses a year and his students are having great success.
The deer pop here is pretty low, so the ranchers might have had troubles if there was 11 more hanging around, but there might be another 4-6 mouths to feed this summer with the 2 left around.
Manitoba Ag also has this “dealing with wildlife predation” thing but it ain’t working too good. Trapping was the only thing that reduced predation.
Another thing to keep in mind, no wolf or pack is the same and nothing is written in stone…..even the 10 commandments are just rough guidelines…lol

I got kicked twice this week working cows. Cows aren't that lethal lol

You cowboys in Kansas sure are tough.

No just understand reality

Yep, that’s for sure.
We don’t get kicked out here that often.
Maybe you shouldn’t work with cows?…….lol

? Who is this really?

Osky

Shaky ill stack my skills handling cattle against anyone. But it is funny to see u take personal shots, must be getting under ur skin a bit

I just don’t got a grip on reality yet, that’s all…..but I’m gettin there.

Mac, you really need to edit the title of this thread.

The article clearly shows $160,000 which is $160K, not $160M, big difference there.

I thought some Cali nut had fell down and bumped their head when I saw $160M caused by one wolf. But $160K is a lot more believable over the lifetime of the wolf.

You like how I did that? I made a comment about myself and us from Kansas and subconsciously it helped you come to ur own conclusion on where u stand on the matter.

I felt shame for my comment, it was out of line. Sat in the sin bin for 2 and came out with a new look on things.
God bless all his children.

Good deal I'm just having a little fun. I'm glad u take it well.

Lots of arm chair quarterbacks here, this is a serious issue in the area. Lots of wolvez some collered and some just microchiped. Watch the video these wolves have no fear.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox40.com/news/local-news/california-wolves-devastating-cattle/amp/

Once they’re habituated, they gotta be killed, relocation won’t work. Same with losing livestock. I’ve said it before, but if there’s wolves in the area and you haven’t lost livestock, best to leave ‘em be. Kill them off and the new ones may not be so nice. Once you lose one animal, they generally all have to go. I’m pretty good at armchair quarterbacking, but my fall back when I’m wrong is “every wolf/pack is different”…….. Which is true, nothings written in stone.
Here’s a warning put out up in Yellowknife earlier this year….
https://cabinradio.ca/217436/news/e...-warns-of-wolf-sightings-in-yellowknife/

I have a good friend with a big ranch in Montana. Cattle and sheep.

This guy is a serial killer when it comes to protecting his livestock. His stories about "dealing with" bears, wolves and eagles are incredible.

Absolutely hates wolves.

Shakey, that "wolf" don't look right

They ranch in wild country?? Maybe they should ranch in the suburbs or parks and golf courses and the wolf promoters go live wild and free in the wild country I find it funny when the wildlife agencies are supposed to count every animal in an area to set hunting quota's but the self promoters dont have to come up with any population studies or impact statements

You may be correct. However "M" is the Roman numeral for 1000. I'm rather simple minded so I'll stick with 160M is One Hundred Sixty Thousands.

That’s a great idea right there!

Well, you are technically correct but that is not the way most folks think so it is confusing.

Did you get kicked in the head twice? A kick to a wolf from a cow is head high, if you got kicked anywhere else it's two entirely different things. And a "stop bothering me man" kick is different from a survival kick defending its life
A a cattle guy I'm sure you're well aware of the difference.

Only in CA. Have read or even seen on TV where bicyclists were attacked by mountain lions in the hills of CA. Funny how the blame is always the bicyclist's fault, never the animal. The people were invading the animal's territory, or they startled the animal into attacking. One said the attack was a young male who had never encountered humans before. They place the life of an animal over that of a human. The solution is if they had a hunting season on these lions, they would become more wary of humans and stay away from them.

The old saying, sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you. We're fooling around on their turf.
Now I've got this thief sporting an earring to deal with. I'm going to start packing a little more heat next time. I sent this to the sergeant in my area asking why they didn't just whack this jerk.....lol. Whatever, he's trying to find a new home and I'll do my best to keep him at bay, but between me and the local farmers around, he's gonna be a dead bear in short order.