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Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs #8394613
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We have been using credilio and sentinel, but she refuses to take sentinel anymore. We’ve tried everything. Asked the vet about alternatives. He said credilio and heartgard or symparica trio. What do ya know about the vet recommendation? What do you all use?
Thanks

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394618
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I have had many dog patients who do not like sentinel at all.
Nexgard and heartgard is the most readily palatable combo I have found. But the simparica trio is second in line and that one is all included.

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394633
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I use cow tags zip tied to the dogs collar for ticks and fleas plus cedar bedding.for heartworm I use a liquid with ivomec in it shoot in there mouth once a month 1cc per 14lbs of dog wt. DO NOT USE THIS IF THERE NOT HOUNDS IT CAN KILL COLLIES SHEPARDS ETC. I buy it from a dog supply business in indiana.

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394635
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I use Credelio on my dogs and it is an excellent product. it is the most effective flea and tick preventative I've used and I've tried a bunch over the years. My dogs have never suffered any side effects from it that I am aware of.

I can't help you much with the heart worm. I've never treated my dogs for it. The incidence rate in untreated dogs is less than 2% nationwide and less even than that in my state.

I do see where they offer an annual heart worm injection now called ProHeart 12. If I treated my dogs for heart worm that is probably the route I'd go. I'd get them the injection along with their vaccinations and boosters at their annual wellness checks.


Eh...wot?

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: elsmasho82] #8394636
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[quote=elsmasho82]I have had many dog patients who do not like sentinel at all.
Nexgard and heartgard is the most readily palatable combo I have found. But the simparica trio is second in line and that one is all included. [/quot

How safe are nexgard, heartgard and the simpatica trio?

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394639
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They are both equally safe; however as mentioned above; you should likely not use ivermectin products in dogs like border collies may have the MDR1 genes. So no heartgard for dogs like them. Use interceptor or sentinel or the simparica trio. Any product with “laner” ingredients like Bravecto (fluralaner) Nexgard (afoxilaner) credelio (Lotilaner) or simparica trio (sarolaner) should be used with caution in dogs with neurologic issues like seizures .

Must assess risk to benefit with all these issues. They say laner products can lower threshold for seizure activity but our Lyme disease is so rampant many clients and some of my staff included choose to still use them.
I feel they are very safe

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Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394654
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I use bravecto and heartgard on my lab. No issues

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394659
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I would use this. Gets tapeworms too.
https://yourpetandyou.elanco.com/us/our-products/credelio-quattro-for-dogs

From their site.

Credelio Quattro™ monthly protection for dogs
Credelio Quattro (lotilaner, moxidectin, praziquantel, and pyrantel chewable tablets) provide the broadest* parasite protection in a monthly chewable tablet, covering against six types of parasites. Prescribed by vets to protect against ticks, fleas, heartworm, roundworms, hookworms† and tapeworms, Credelio Quattro is proven parasite protection for the dog you love.

*Based on label comparison of the number of parasite types covered in a chewable that also targets ticks.
†Uncinaria stenocephala

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394660
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The does for 1%ivernectin is .1 cc per 10lbs of dog. So 1 cc would treat a 100 lb dog. Given monthly. I personally don't on the first of the month so I don't forget

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Originally Posted by houndone
I use cow tags zip tied to the dogs collar for ticks and fleas plus cedar bedding.for heartworm I use a liquid with ivomec in it shoot in there mouth once a month 1cc per 14lbs of dog wt. DO NOT USE THIS IF THERE NOT HOUNDS IT CAN KILL COLLIES SHEPARDS ETC. I buy it from a dog supply business in indiana.


1cc of ivomec will treat a 110 pound calf and would be an overdose for dogs. Ivermectin does cross the blood brain barrier.

Dogs need a broad spectrum dewormer that includes tapeworms every month. Reading the product insert (effectiveness) for the new oral tick product, I see Credillo has the best kill.


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Originally Posted by MTHunter
Originally Posted by houndone
I use cow tags zip tied to the dogs collar for ticks and fleas plus cedar bedding.for heartworm I use a liquid with ivomec in it shoot in there mouth once a month 1cc per 14lbs of dog wt. DO NOT USE THIS IF THERE NOT HOUNDS IT CAN KILL COLLIES SHEPARDS ETC. I buy it from a dog supply business in indiana.


1cc of ivomec will treat a 220 pound calf and would be an incredible over dose for dogs. DO NOT DO THAT!

Dogs need a broad spectrum dewormer that includes tapeworms every month. Reading the product insert (effectiveness) for the new oral tick product, I see Credillo has the best kill.

If you read my post it says I use a liquid with ivomec in it ITS NOT PURE IVOMEC.ive been using it for years and haven't killed any dogs yet.

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: MTHunter] #8394666
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Originally Posted by MTHunter



It gets more species of tapes than Sentinel spectrum does. Some tape segments are so tiny they fit inside the loop end of a paper clip so we can’t even see them. And they do not appear in a regular fecal float usually. Looks like a good product

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394671
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If you want the best tick med then use Bravecto, it’s a 3 month chewable and doesn’t get any better.

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: thgreenwing] #8394673
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Originally Posted by thgreenwing
If you want the best tick med then use Bravecto, it’s a 3 month chewable and doesn’t get any better.



I think Bravecto is a great product and it increases client compliance. Downside is it doesn’t do all ticks for 12 weeks. I believe the lone star tick is only labeled for 8 weeks and we are seeing more of that in our area in particular.
However Bravecto also makes a 1 month chew which would be comparable to credelio or Nexgard and choice based solely on which is more palatable to the pet in question

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Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394706
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We have used bravecto on our last 3 dogs and never seen a flea or tick ….. our last dog died of lymphoma at 4 years old ….

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Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394721
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NexGuard Plus. I put lots of peanut butter on it.

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394722
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The problem with Bravecto is it loses its effectiveness before the end of the month

Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394723
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Back when I ran hounds it was 0.1cc ivermectrin per 10lbs monthly. Draw up the med then top off with the syringe with syrup to mask any flavor and down the hatch. Once monthly weigh ins and worming. Fleas and ticks was regular treatment of the yard around the kennels with bifen granules. And permethrin on the dogs, mixed accordingly to the label of course.


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Re: Flea, tick and heart worm for dogs [Re: poconobear] #8394752
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The only active ingredient in "heartguard" is Ivermectin.

a 50ml bottle is about $40 and will last you a whole family of dogs, your chickens and yourself until far after it expires (if it really ever does).

Doesn't do much for ticks, however. Just internal parasites, etc.

I just squirt it on their food. Vet says that works just fine (ala heartguard chews).

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