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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: trapdog1] #8396613
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Sovereign Wealth Fund. I'm sure that would be beneficial to all mankind.

White House

"Sec. 2. Sovereign Wealth Fund. The Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Commerce, in close coordination with the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, shall develop a plan for the establishment of a sovereign wealth fund consistent with section 1 of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Commerce shall jointly submit this plan to the President within 90 days of the date of this order. Such plan shall include recommendations for funding mechanisms, investment strategies, fund structure, and a governance model. The plan shall also include an evaluation of the legal considerations for establishing and managing such a fund, including any need for legislation. "


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: beaverpeeler] #8396614
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
It is pretty dang nice to head out into the desert and know that more than half of the land out there is my own personal stomping grounds with no need to knock on a door for access. Any of us trappers in the western states will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way I'm pretty certain.


I agree all 50,000 of you. Trapping is irrelevant in big picture. NIMBY!


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Dirt] #8396728
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by trapdog1
Sovereign Wealth Fund. I'm sure that would be beneficial to all mankind.

White House

"Sec. 2. Sovereign Wealth Fund. The Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Commerce, in close coordination with the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy, shall develop a plan for the establishment of a sovereign wealth fund consistent with section 1 of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury and the Secretary of Commerce shall jointly submit this plan to the President within 90 days of the date of this order. Such plan shall include recommendations for funding mechanisms, investment strategies, fund structure, and a governance model. The plan shall also include an evaluation of the legal considerations for establishing and managing such a fund, including any need for legislation. "

Great, another pipe dream. The government has such a great track record for running things well., But I'm sure this would be different. whistle

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: beaverpeeler] #8396740
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
It is pretty dang nice to head out into the desert and know that more than half of the land out there is my own personal stomping grounds with no need to knock on a door for access. Any of us trappers in the western states will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way I'm pretty certain.

I'm with you. BLM, while grossly mismanaged, is at least wide open to me. I can hunt, trap, and fish without a thought to special permissions or permits.


Just doing what I want now.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8396945
05/03/25 12:34 PM
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^^^Just like the Mountain Men...except we don't have to be looking behind our backs for "Bugs Boys".


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8398147
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Hey guys I'm new here and haven't posted much. You all know that non residents can submit an oppose testimony to this bill. They are using a federal act (clean water act) for this beaver ban, which is how they start a push for a national beaver ban on the hill in DC. Every states trappers should be thinking about this. I have seen this 1st hand in the exotic animal industry with the python bans which started in Florida under the invasive species act, then a national ban with adding the Lacey's Act. If you guys haven't submitted please do so, every vote helps.

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2025R1/Testimony/SNRW/HB/3932/2025-05-06-13-00?area=Measures

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: J Staton] #8398227
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
It is pretty dang nice to head out into the desert and know that more than half of the land out there is my own personal stomping grounds with no need to knock on a door for access. Any of us trappers in the western states will fight tooth and nail to keep it that way I'm pretty certain.

I live in a county where three quarters of the land is federally owned. It's one of the poorest counties in Arkansas. There's no room for development of industry due to the lack of property available.
As for state owned land if the will of the people in that state want state government to purchase land for public use then so be it. Let local folks decide what to do with the land, not bureaucrats in Washington DC.

See now I read that as "I live in a county that is as close to heaven as you can get in Arkansas." Why on earth would you possibly want your county developed? All that federal land that you can trap, hunt and fish, or simply be on (unless they make it into a park or monument and close it to everything) would all be gone.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: WBG] #8398229
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Originally Posted by WBG
Fewer places with better access than the privately held forest lands of northern Maine. Zero fed.lands, as it should be.

That's funny, I've a friend who goes to Maine and guides bear hunts there. He told me that all that "North Woods" you are talking about being such great access, you have to pay to go on. And at least for bears the outfitters pretty much have it sewed up. Now I haven't checked into it personally, but please tell me if I was told wrong.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: bearcat2] #8398239
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
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Fewer places with better access than the privately held forest lands of northern Maine. Zero fed.lands, as it should be.

That's funny, I've a friend who goes to Maine and guides bear hunts there. He told me that all that "North Woods" you are talking about being such great access, you have to pay to go on. And at least for bears the outfitters pretty much have it sewed up. Now I haven't checked into it personally, but please tell me if I was told wrong.


A lot of the timber companies are doing that in Oregon too. Recreational permits required for access. I flat out will not pay to hunt.


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8398240
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Somebody missed the part about " poorest county in Arkansas". Not every Americans' dream world involves hunting, fishing, and trapping. BTW, which can be done on private land. Fishing really does not require public land, just public waterways. I don't think anybody suggests privately owned waterways? The Founders desired private property, that is why so much of the East is private property. Private property brings economic prosperity for more Americans than public property.


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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8398241
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Spoiled western hunters!

Better stay out west on all that public land...or you'll either pay to hunt or you won't hunt.

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Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Dirt] #8398268
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Somebody missed the part about " poorest county in Arkansas". Not every Americans' dream world involves hunting, fishing, and trapping. BTW, which can be done on private land. Fishing really does not require public land, just public waterways. I don't think anybody suggests privately owned waterways? The Founders desired private property, that is why so much of the East is private property. Private property brings economic prosperity for more Americans than public property.

Not so fast here. Maybe privately owned waterways are the way to go! Even more economic prosperity to be had.

Re: Oregon, Democrats, and Anti Trapping Bills [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #8398289
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Well, if you lived here you would veiw waterways as public highways that have no construction or maintenance costs.

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