Sorry, I was not implying that you believe that; just get really frustrated that it is, or has become, a popular misconception that this is something that the bible teaches.

If you read the thread its popular enough that i knew that was going to be his answer and used it against him but im curious to hear more of why you are saying that 6,000 is bs. Everyone i ask repeats it. The most religious engineer ive ever worked with believed it. Explain it to me.

Young-earth book writers need create an adversarial relationship between their readers and the rest of us in order to sell books. They've done a good job of it.

If you doubt that you can't add up seasonal ice layers, or add up seasonal sediment layers in bodies of water, like lake Baikal, then you probably don't believe that you can count tree rings in order to determine the age of a tree.

These observable things are called "field evidence". You don't have to rely on radio carbon dating and other such things that you find rather suspicious, or can't get your mind around.

The whole point of the creation story is that God created. You either believe that or you don't. It's just as simple as that, no need for debate.

I got through the first page before all I heard was static. I'm going to change the channel.

The Bible does not say nor imply that the earth is 6,000 years old. It is based on Bible scholars doing extensive research and studying on the Bible and Biblical timelines. It’s just a theory m, but in my opinion, a very good one.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about the age of the sun and the rest of our solar system

Roughly 6,000 years. Interesting enough is that the earth is 4 days older than the sun according to the Bible.

That IS interesting. If the Earth is older than the sun......how did the 'creator' create day and night.....if there was no sun ?

Husky,

I'm not trying to be difficult, but do you ever look into what scholarly Christian folks who don't agree with your position have to say about this subject?

I don't know the credentials of the guy who's video I posted above, but did you watch it? Or, have you watched or read any of John Lennox? He is certainly a very credible person.

Science can be correct without disproving that god exists. I personally don’t think it’s out of the question that god set evolution into motion, knowing that we would end up in his image. He is omnipotent after all

I really don’t know. But since He is the Father of Lights, I would assume he would have to power to figure something out!

How about the age of our galaxy....the Milky Way....or the age of the universe??


Any ideas on those ?

Same. ~6,000 years

As the Bible says, “The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handiwork.”

I could ask the same question of evolution: why would such a big, vast space evolve from nothing and us evolve here?

I believe that in the bronze and stone age's humans were even more susceptible to superstition. People then, like people today, could not except not knowing. The world was flat and the sun moved across the sky. Life on earth was simply a test to see if people were worthy of paradise, in spite of the belief that the persons creator knew the outcome of the person created when the person was created. Anyone who questioned the shaman was cast from the tribe in an age when that meant almost certain death.

Oh the ol father of light trick? Convenient.

Many think and myself included that the verses about "God stretched out the heavens" means the heavens are still expanding. I think science agrees with that.

Its only been a couple hundred years since philosophers changed over to scientists, with theologians in the background. Here is copy/ paste from the following article:

https://science-atlas.com/faq/did-science-come-from-philosophy/

The Galilean Contribution to the History of the Philosophy of Science – Until the 18th and 19th centuries, there was no real distinction between scientist and philosopher, and many of the great scientist-philosophers of antiquity were also theologians. Science gave philosophy a way of empirically testing theories and concepts, whilst philosophy has helped to develop the scientific method used today. Philosophy also dictates what areas science can and cannot test, delineating the boundary between physical and metaphysical questions. These boundaries and the rules governing research have developed over the centuries, and philosophy and science are intertwined. The history of the philosophy of science shows the development of the underlying methodology and foundations of the scientific process, and shaped science, as we know it today. Science could not exist without philosophy, and even the experiments underway in the Large Hadron Collider owe homage to Aristotle, Bacon and Kuhn. Beginnings – Aristotle’s Empiricism vs Plato’s Forms The history of the philosophy of science, certainly in the Western world, begins with the philosophers of Ancient Greece.

Any thoughts or ideas what "dark energy" is or can do?

By “dark energy” do you mean black magic?