I got through the first page before all I heard was static. I'm going to change the channel.

The Bible does not say nor imply that the earth is 6,000 years old. It is based on Bible scholars doing extensive research and studying on the Bible and Biblical timelines. It’s just a theory m, but in my opinion, a very good one.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts about the age of the sun and the rest of our solar system

Roughly 6,000 years. Interesting enough is that the earth is 4 days older than the sun according to the Bible.

That IS interesting. If the Earth is older than the sun......how did the 'creator' create day and night.....if there was no sun ?

Husky,

I'm not trying to be difficult, but do you ever look into what scholarly Christian folks who don't agree with your position have to say about this subject?

I don't know the credentials of the guy who's video I posted above, but did you watch it? Or, have you watched or read any of John Lennox? He is certainly a very credible person.

Science can be correct without disproving that god exists. I personally don’t think it’s out of the question that god set evolution into motion, knowing that we would end up in his image. He is omnipotent after all

I really don’t know. But since He is the Father of Lights, I would assume he would have to power to figure something out!

How about the age of our galaxy....the Milky Way....or the age of the universe??


Any ideas on those ?

Same. ~6,000 years

As the Bible says, “The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handiwork.”

I could ask the same question of evolution: why would such a big, vast space evolve from nothing and us evolve here?

I believe that in the bronze and stone age's humans were even more susceptible to superstition. People then, like people today, could not except not knowing. The world was flat and the sun moved across the sky. Life on earth was simply a test to see if people were worthy of paradise, in spite of the belief that the persons creator knew the outcome of the person created when the person was created. Anyone who questioned the shaman was cast from the tribe in an age when that meant almost certain death.

Oh the ol father of light trick? Convenient.

Many think and myself included that the verses about "God stretched out the heavens" means the heavens are still expanding. I think science agrees with that.

Its only been a couple hundred years since philosophers changed over to scientists, with theologians in the background. Here is copy/ paste from the following article:

https://science-atlas.com/faq/did-science-come-from-philosophy/

The Galilean Contribution to the History of the Philosophy of Science – Until the 18th and 19th centuries, there was no real distinction between scientist and philosopher, and many of the great scientist-philosophers of antiquity were also theologians. Science gave philosophy a way of empirically testing theories and concepts, whilst philosophy has helped to develop the scientific method used today. Philosophy also dictates what areas science can and cannot test, delineating the boundary between physical and metaphysical questions. These boundaries and the rules governing research have developed over the centuries, and philosophy and science are intertwined. The history of the philosophy of science shows the development of the underlying methodology and foundations of the scientific process, and shaped science, as we know it today. Science could not exist without philosophy, and even the experiments underway in the Large Hadron Collider owe homage to Aristotle, Bacon and Kuhn. Beginnings – Aristotle’s Empiricism vs Plato’s Forms The history of the philosophy of science, certainly in the Western world, begins with the philosophers of Ancient Greece.

Any thoughts or ideas what "dark energy" is or can do?

By “dark energy” do you mean black magic?

Foxpaw, the verse says God stretched out the heavens. The word stretched is in the past tense, not present tense. Also, how can scientists “see” the “edge” of space when they can’t even see some of the farthest galaxies?

Genesis says that God spoke light into existence. I don’t fully know how He did that, but he did.

Have you found one yet?

I was hoping this debate address the origin theories proposed by atheists. Without invoking an intelligence or external actor, it's challenging to explain the initial organization of matter and accumulation of energy necessary for events like the Big Bang. Even scientific explanations for the universe's origin seem to require a prior cause or condition that exists outside the current natural order. It appears that any origin theory, whether theistic or atheistic, necessitates a degree of faith in something beyond our immediate understanding. Typically only one side of the debate acknowledges their beliefs require faith.

You can take everything science has to offer regarding explanations for the universe and recursively ask "but what lead to that". At some point the scientist's answers start sounding like God.