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Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403117
05/13/25 10:12 PM
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It is hopeless!

P.S. Origami is Japanese. Dou itashimashite

Last edited by Dirt; 05/13/25 10:16 PM.

Who is John Galt?
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403124
05/13/25 10:18 PM
05/13/25 10:18 PM
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I figure every day has been an improvement over the last administration ! The louder the left squeals the better things are going.


It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: rvsask] #8403126
05/13/25 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rvsask
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
So if you don't think they folded, how were things going when ice cream joey had the helm?

Huh? Is this called whataboutism?
Please explain this massive fold please without bringing whatever it is you’re bringing into it. Lol


China had us by the short hairs because joey and his family were beholden to Xi. Xi did this on purpose to shut them up or he would really expose how much bribery had taken place (I am sure it was MUCH worse than the media would report).

Trump is playing the long game with them like they do with the rest of the world. Joey and his dysfunctional family only wanted money for the biden crime empire. Joey was willing to throw America off the cliff for the benefit of his family only. Trump is not that kind of man. He will not be beholden to Xi like joey was.

Joey might as well have been the captain of the titanic.

Trump is trying to right the ship.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403143
05/13/25 10:40 PM
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"The Biden administration will increase Section 301 tariffs on imports of wafers, polysilicon and certain tungsten products from China, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative announced Wednesday.

Solar wafers and polysilicon imports, critical components for solar energy development, will now face a 50% tariff rate. Tungsten products, such as bars and sheets, will be subject to a 25% tariff rate. The hikes will take effect Jan. 1."

Democrats are the party of protectionist tariffs.

I believe there were others.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403150
05/13/25 10:50 PM
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A deal has not been reached,,,

Tariffs have been lowered

Nobody folded,,,,,yet

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403153
05/13/25 10:51 PM
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Bowhunter, thanks again for going into whataboutism while doing nothing to explain this big fold. But you did mention the long game so I guess I can take a shot of whiskey for reading that talking point.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403158
05/13/25 10:54 PM
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biden never had a clue he is a crook and not a smart leader.


Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403163
05/13/25 10:58 PM
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I'm sure the Canadian connection knows what's going on in the world way more than Trump does. I'll just check in here from time to time to get the real scoop.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403176
05/13/25 11:26 PM
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Origami originated in china. Then moved to japan.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403183
05/13/25 11:43 PM
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I would not call paying 30% more a win, especially as consumer confidence is declining. We will see some shortages this summer as thousands of containers were delayed weeks ago. That may well be temporary but as retailers plan months ahead there will be some hiccups in our traditional retail marketing schemes.
Going from 125% to 30% will help keep agriculture commodiites competative so hopefully we don't have to spend 30 billion bailing out soybean farmers like we did in 2018.

Bryce

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403186
05/13/25 11:49 PM
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It’s in the ballpark of somewhere around 40% of US imports out of China not being consumer goods but things used in manufacturing right there in the USA . That’s worth considering too. Backing off on the whole war with China maybe isn’t terrible for US manufacturing if all the plants in China haven’t locked their doors and moved back yet.

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Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403214
05/14/25 04:19 AM
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The 2 biggest hardwood lumber producers in my area Gutchess Lumber, ( 2.5 million board feet per week) and Baillie Lumber arguably largest hardwood lumber producers east of the Mississippi, except for White Oak, shut down buying any hardwood logs after Trumps liberation day. As of the 90 day tariff deal, they have again starting purchasing most species of hardwood logs, wide open no quotas.

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Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403288
05/14/25 07:57 AM
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I voted for Trump. I think I made the correct choice. He is a worker. Talks a little too much but I think he can fix it if the people would leave him alone.
I don't trust the Chinese government.
I wish we could get donkey lips from New York and the fake Americans from the squad out of there. I'm tired of hearing that noise. When people vote for people like that you wonder will we ever pull out of this mess.
I know I still live in the best country. Thank God for that.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403360
05/14/25 10:30 AM
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Larry Kudlow said the first deal they had with the chinese in first term, the chinese just ignored it.

I don't believe that's going to be tolerated in round two.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: snowy] #8403428
05/14/25 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by snowy
biden never had a clue he is a crook and not a smart leader.


Biden still doesn't have a clue he has Dementia and at this stage of his problem he probably never will.


An old man roaming the Rockies
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: dewayne] #8403625
05/14/25 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dewayne
I voted for Trump. I think I made the correct choice. He is a worker. Talks a little too much but I think he can fix it if the people would leave him alone.
I don't trust the Chinese government.
I wish we could get donkey lips from New York and the fake Americans from the squad out of there. I'm tired of hearing that noise. When people vote for people like that you wonder will we ever pull out of this mess.
I know I still live in the best country. Thank God for that.



Good post!,..time seems so evasive of those that choose to move rapidly, And that is what is needed.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: rvsask] #8403646
05/14/25 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rvsask
Bowhunter, thanks again for going into whataboutism while doing nothing to explain this big fold. But you did mention the long game so I guess I can take a shot of whiskey for reading that talking point.


You are one weird dude.

Stick to Canadian issues. You aren't as up to speed about American issues as you think you are..


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403648
05/14/25 09:26 PM
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I have no need to buy Chinese garbage!, I can wait.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: bblwi] #8403665
05/14/25 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I would not call paying 30% more a win, especially as consumer confidence is declining. We will see some shortages this summer as thousands of containers were delayed weeks ago. That may well be temporary but as retailers plan months ahead there will be some hiccups in our traditional retail marketing schemes.
Going from 125% to 30% will help keep agriculture commodiites competative so hopefully we don't have to spend 30 billion bailing out soybean farmers like we did in 2018.

Bryce

The US imports 5 times more from China than what China imports from the US.
An equitable deal for China in real dollars would be China paying the US 10% tariffs and the US paying China 50% tarriffs.
The 10% / 30% split represents a significant windfall for the US compared to what 10% / 50% split would be.
Put your checkers away. We're playing chess here.

Re: Chinese fold like beautiful origami [Re: wr otis] #8403927
05/15/25 10:14 AM
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Below is some data on US and China trade numbers
Bryce
The US trade deficit with China in 2024 was $295.4 billion. This deficit represents a significant difference between the value of US imports from China and US exports to China. China's trade surplus with the US reached USD 97.07 billion in a recent period, with both exports and imports shrinking.
Here's a breakdown of the US trade deficit with China:
2024: The US goods trade deficit with China was $295.4 billion.
Imports: U.S. goods imports from China in 2024 totaled $438.9 billion.
Exports: U.S. goods exports to China in 2024 were $143.5 billion.
Deficit Trend: The trade deficit with China has consistently been a negative number, indicating that the US imports more from China than it exports to China.
Impact: The US has consistently imported more from China than it has exported to China, with the bilateral US trade deficit in goods with China rising to $375.6 billion

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