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Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403184
05/13/25 11:44 PM
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I believe the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are climbing. I believe our greenhouse gases are increasing. It is hard not to believe that humans have not contributed to these increases.

Re: Poll [Re: charles] #8403195
05/13/25 11:55 PM
05/13/25 11:55 PM
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Alaska
Originally Posted by charles
I believe the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are climbing. I believe our greenhouse gases are increasing. It is hard not to believe that humans have not contributed to these increases.

We don’t even compare to fleas on a dogs back, we aren’t that significant

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403196
05/13/25 11:57 PM
05/13/25 11:57 PM
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Central Texas
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Central Texas
We have more trees now than ever before. We plant them all the time. If anything, lack of fire suppression across much of the globe is contributing to more tree and shrub growth.
I only know what I am told about C02 levels in the atmosphere; as I don't have the capability to measure it or compare the amounts over time. Frankly, I don't think anyone does; as one big natural disaster like Krakatoa or the US gov induced catastrophe like Nordstream 2 pipeline explosion drastically changes the dynamics so there really isn't much to compare it to.

I do think we humans are screwing up building more and more concrete, setting solar panels everywhere, and building cities of whirlwind bird and bat killers. If they want solar panels, then go to the cities and put them all over the roof tops. Don't take out prime farmland and grazing land to do it. Humans ain't the problem; its idiot humans in charge that are.


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Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403213
05/14/25 04:08 AM
05/14/25 04:08 AM
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Tug Hill, NY
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Chancey, Your last sentence nailed it !

Last edited by Squash; 05/14/25 04:08 AM.
Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403278
05/14/25 07:30 AM
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Manitoba
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Manitoba
We broke a heat record here on Monday that held since 1905 or something…….lol.
We’re still at the tail end of an ice age. It’s going to warm up no matter what we do. People hate change, but that’s Mother Nature.
Alberta used to be a sea surrounded by tropical jungle. Now we get the sweet black nectar that powers our world from that jungle…..lol.
The worst damage environmentalists are doing is trying to stop forest management. The multimillion dollar cabins are sitting in a ticking time bomb. Some of this bush needs fire to reproduce, but they’re used to normal fires that have been running through for thousands of years. Now, with poor management in these parks, the fires are so hot that the trees won’t grow back. They’ll be living in a very different bush when it starts growing back.

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Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
Re: Poll [Re: Savell] #8403282
05/14/25 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Savell
…. Not to mention all the girls I dated in the 2000’s spraying that white rain hairspray everywhere…. Burned a hole directly through the ozone layer I imagine


And launched thousands upon thousand of potatoes from PVC spud guns.

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403283
05/14/25 07:45 AM
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Missouri
#2. It’s a cycle we are in at this time. They can try to call what they want. We had snow here like 1978 so as of now I do not hear their buzz word. If we would had a big melt off of snow like 1973 we would have had a flood on the Mississippi.

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403286
05/14/25 07:52 AM
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It's the rockets going thru the ozone!! Opening up more holes every year.


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Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403294
05/14/25 08:13 AM
05/14/25 08:13 AM
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#3

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403308
05/14/25 08:35 AM
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Whether climate change is real, and the political response to it, are two separate things. Climate change is real, the political response to it is garbage. We're not going to windmill/solar panel/carbon credit/electric car our way out of it. That's just a scam to make rich people richer.

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403322
05/14/25 09:04 AM
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#3 I have watched weather patterns since the early 50's I see a 7 and a 14 year cycle patterns I also looked at records since the 1700's and see the same patterns.


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Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403330
05/14/25 09:13 AM
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There are many scientists that say it's a cycle that's been going on for hundreds of years. But, they are ignored by the main stream media. Instead, they prefer to take a fatalistic view and call it man made based on factual science.


You know you're a lousy driver when Siri says, "In 400 feet, stop and let me out!"
Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403357
05/14/25 10:21 AM
05/14/25 10:21 AM
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SW Pa
It's about getting votes.

It's a problem with no definitive end, or solution. That they can use continually to get votes.

Until it loses popularity in the polls.

Then it's on to the next vote generating scheme.

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403438
05/14/25 02:22 PM
05/14/25 02:22 PM
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W NY
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Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403459
05/14/25 02:59 PM
05/14/25 02:59 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
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Green County Wisconsin
Originally Posted by AntiGov
After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?

What say you ?


1) you believe it's still warming

2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change

3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be


3-ish
a couple volcanos can cause more disturbance than what mankind does

everything has been going in cycles from the beginning of man , we have lived much of recorded human time the last 3000 or so years in some small ice ages

what makes it a hoax is not the data , but the robbing this data to make that data and the insistence on doing it fast enough that you can't fully develop a trend

what is being done is a shift of one kind of energy to another , building stuff in mass , just to toss it out


if we were real about this , we would do less slight of hand in how we use and make energy and a lot more reduction of consumption

step 1 to just plain being more conscience of our consumption is to reduce consumption
of energy that generally means more insulation , we use a crazy amount of energy to heat and cool

what actually happens is they save pennies and call it dollars change

an excellent example is refrigerators , there was a test where they took an old 1950s refrigerator and put it on a kill-a-watt meter and did the same with a new fridge the new ones have much smaller motors so they show a reduced energy consumption UNTIL you run them 16 hours a day to cool the same thermal mass as the other fridge cools in 8 hours , now you have within a couple watts of consumption between the 2 , but remember one is 70 years old and worked the entire time , the other one you will be lucky to get 7 years out if , so you must also calculate in the energy consumption of building , transporting , recycling of it x10
now the 70 year old Fridge is way ahead of the new fridge that will need to be replaced every 7-10 years as they are non repairable.

someone figured out the change economy showed profits , constantly in a flux of change



Is there warming or change , sure there could be , but the way it is being treated really won't counter what they say the issue it

Diesel trucks are another good example Def and Regen really didn't make it better , it made it different and not in an all good way and the Government exempted all their vehicles from it


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403461
05/14/25 03:01 PM
05/14/25 03:01 PM
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Global warming is a bigger scam than Covid was.
And a lot of bureaucrats are getting filthy rich from people getting sucked into their vacuum.
We've been in global warming since the end of the last ice age tens of thousands of years ago.
Don't drink the Kool -Aid

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403465
05/14/25 03:14 PM
05/14/25 03:14 PM
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McGrath, AK
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?

What say you ?


1) you believe it's still warming

2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change

3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be



I think you need to add #4. The climate is changing but man's contribution is uncertain.

I have zero doubt that it is warmer generally................in my area over the past 50 years. I can see it in the declining consumption of wood for my heat. I can also see it in the changing land forms on my trapline. Small rises that existed in 1980 are now gone or have become ravines due to permafrost melting.

I think Milankovich cycles are the largest contributor to these changes.


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Re: Poll [Re: white17] #8403652
05/14/25 09:31 PM
05/14/25 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Originally Posted by AntiGov
After 40 yrs of man made global warming we should all be cooked , shouldn't we ?

What say you ?


1) you believe it's still warming

2) you believe it's real but should be called climate change

3) it's a hoax , always has been , always will be



I think you need to add #4. The climate is changing but man's contribution is uncertain.

I have zero doubt that it is warmer generally................in my area over the past 50 years. I can see it in the declining consumption of wood for my heat. I can also see it in the changing land forms on my trapline. Small rises that existed in 1980 are now gone or have become ravines due to permafrost melting.

I think Milankovich cycles are the largest contributor to these changes.

^^^^^This^^^^^

Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403699
05/14/25 10:50 PM
05/14/25 10:50 PM
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Montana
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All BS, gives all the weirdos some thing to believe in


Let me sugar coat this
Re: Poll [Re: AntiGov] #8403702
05/14/25 10:55 PM
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# 2,...taken advantage of by # 3

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