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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/01/25 11:32 PM
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ky_coyote_hunter
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They had public hangings on the court house square here before my time. Whole families would show up and make it a community affair complete with jeers & heckling.
We need to get back to that, because face it, there's nothing more entertaining & satisfying than hearing a scumbags neck crack at the end of a rope. Lol
Plus, it's a mighty effective deterrent to other wannabe up & coming scumbags to see their cronies snuffed out at one of these neighborhood solidarity gatherings.
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/01/25 11:42 PM
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Agreed Ky yote hunter 100%
Problem is how do we deal with the scumbags when they are our senators, legislators, presidents, supreme court justices, etc.?
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/01/25 11:54 PM
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You start from the outside Chancey, with your less sophisticated scumbags while pressuring judges, sympathy groups, and politicians to fall in line, then you work your way in and hang every scumbag that is a somebody, Lol.
This country would turn around for the better on a dime, but most don't believe it's possible....But it is...There are enough people out there fed up with crime that we are ripe for the rope.
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/02/25 12:01 AM
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Chancey
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Amen Brother! Start locally, and work the way up. It's US vs. THEM
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: warrior]
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06/02/25 07:38 AM
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Let's just say there's should be no such thing as death row, just NEXT!
Make it public, where convicted and within 48 hours by hanging.
Murder, Rape, and Treason. THIS^^
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/02/25 07:44 AM
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Having worked in Corrections for 25+ years, I have a few thoughts on the matter...
First off, and I can get deep into the weeds on this one - you gotta consider which "correctional philosophy" you prescribe to. Do you believe the purpose of the sentence is to deter people from committing crime, is it intended to be retribution (eye for an eye), to restore or make the victim "whole" or is it to rehabilitate the offender?
If it's retribution you seek, then death=death seems reasonable I suppose.
If it's to deter people from committing the most serious of crimes, one would logically expect that states that have the death penalty would have fewer people committing the crimes that qualify them for it. (Spoiler alert: The data doesn't support this.)
If your goal is to make the victim "whole", then we'd have to ask the victim (or their surviving family) to see what sentence they would like imposed.
As for the idea of rehabilitating people - that's a whole other matter.
The US is in love with locking people up and/or putting people on probation. If doing more of that translated into lower crime rates, then our crime rates would be DRASTICALLY lower than other developed nations. Yet the opposite is true.
While I agree that the pendulum has swung too far over into too many diversions and/or failure to adequately respond to criminal behavior (especially amongst youth) - I've never seen a shred of evidence suggesting that harsher penalties ALONE will translate into anything other than significant increases in the cost to the tax payer.
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/02/25 08:56 AM
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Where or Who draws the line?
Some DUIers kill.
Should the DUIers om here be whacked?
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Turtledale]
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06/02/25 09:24 AM
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100% for it
If they made the town show up for public hangings there would way less problems IMO This 100% Public
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/02/25 10:02 AM
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Western Michigan
Animals Only
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Feeling you are immune from the law is what gives criminals the idea that they can do what they want. To answer your question, Yes, driving under the influence is a criminal activity. Why would you think it’s not?
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: deerdragger]
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06/02/25 10:09 AM
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Georgia
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Having worked in Corrections for 25+ years, I have a few thoughts on the matter...
First off, and I can get deep into the weeds on this one - you gotta consider which "correctional philosophy" you prescribe to. Do you believe the purpose of the sentence is to deter people from committing crime, is it intended to be retribution (eye for an eye), to restore or make the victim "whole" or is it to rehabilitate the offender?
If it's retribution you seek, then death=death seems reasonable I suppose.
If it's to deter people from committing the most serious of crimes, one would logically expect that states that have the death penalty would have fewer people committing the crimes that qualify them for it. (Spoiler alert: The data doesn't support this.)
If your goal is to make the victim "whole", then we'd have to ask the victim (or their surviving family) to see what sentence they would like imposed.
As for the idea of rehabilitating people - that's a whole other matter.
The US is in love with locking people up and/or putting people on probation. If doing more of that translated into lower crime rates, then our crime rates would be DRASTICALLY lower than other developed nations. Yet the opposite is true.
While I agree that the pendulum has swung too far over into too many diversions and/or failure to adequately respond to criminal behavior (especially amongst youth) - I've never seen a shred of evidence suggesting that harsher penalties ALONE will translate into anything other than significant increases in the cost to the tax payer. You bring up good points. We definitely need to overhaul both our so called justice system and corrections system. JMO, but we need to quit criminalizing every petty offense. Over regulation makes all of us a felon in waiting, just not caught yet. I believe this is by design. Also the justice system, like our tax system, should not be a tool of social justice or social engineering. We also need to have a set list of mutually agreed upon crimes that are beyond the pale and deserving of death. We are too arbitrary on just what is "bad" and whether or not we actually care that it gets punished. As for rehabilitation, i do believe in it but the state can not accomplish that absent God. We need to return to a nation fundamentally based upon Godly principles.
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/02/25 10:53 AM
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Wright B, good point, and if DUI offenders are constantly offending and taking lives' and being released with no accounting save a year or so in jail, not prison, there is a difference, then the sentence should represent their lack of cooperation with their, rehab attempts, some people never do learn or care as long as they can wait out their sentencing !
Warrior, there are a myriad of country's following God's principle's, it doesn't seem to be working for them either !!!
Humans know right and wrong as a general rule, how they impose those on them selves is a strong question, with out an easy answer,, though most know right from wrong we still need curbs to follow or we all will result in total chaos, which seems to be slowly happening in some areas.
There needs to be a sturdy ruling, that when a set sentence is made it is carried out, whether in public or behind a closed door doesn't really matter the end result shown is what does, and it never is, it is just a small media blitz, say it's been carried out, people need to see some things thats a viscus memory of what happens when you seriously go off the rails and lose your control or don't give a care any longer, its more visceral to others in that frame of mind who are wobbling with decision !
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: Savell]
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06/02/25 11:12 AM
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With all the new technologies such as DNA, video surveillance, etc, when there is not the slightest doubt, I agree with the death penalty. A lot of criminals have been set free only to commit the same crimes once again.
Kenneth Allen McDuff is a perfect example. He was paroled after serving time for killing a couple. He shot the male then raped and killed the girlfriend. He wasn't out long when he kidnapped a convenience store young lady who he raped and killed. Did the same with another young mother he ran into at a car wash. He was caught when a former companion of his told authorities he bragged to him about the crimes. Fingerprints, DNA, and the companion's testimony got him the death penalty.
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Re: Death Penalty
[Re: charles]
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06/02/25 12:04 PM
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Maybe we should take a page from the Saudi justice system.
Would you support cutting off a thief's hand or blinding someone? Somehow I can't support those acts but I am not opposed to the death system.
I would be fine with those, actually. We need more variety in our legal system for punishments. Our only punishments are to throw someone in a cage, or to take their money (fines) or make them promise to be nice for a while (probation) in lieu of being thrown in a cage. And if they don't pay or don't be nice, they get thrown in a cage. Also, throwing someone in a cage for decades seems pointless. If they can't learn to be a decent person out in polite society within a few years of living in a cage, they'll never learn it.
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