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Mountain Man Monday 6/2 #8412660
06/02/25 09:04 AM
06/02/25 09:04 AM
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east central WI
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k snow Offline OP
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east central WI
Flint and steels were vitally important in the mountains for starting fires (and lighting pipes).
Every trapper and Indian had one or more flint and steel sets on them, usually one in their shooting bag and one in their pip/tobacco pouch.
Flint and steel sets show up on every trading lost, and are often listed as items stolen when Indians raided camps and ports, or took trappers
prisoner.

Here, W.A. Ferris starts out on a short journey in the winter, taking very little equipment:
Next day the boys [Indian] continued on, in quest of some relations at the
Flatt-head house. - We told them to send up here one or two Indians to hunt for us, and they
should be well rewarded.
We waited until the 17th for the arrival of some, but none came, and I finally resolved to go down
and engage one or two myself. Taking my gun, blankets, a pair of extra moccasins, flint and steel,
a hatchet, and my snow shoes, I passed down the river about twelve miles, where I found a comfortable
bush cabin, and halted for the night


Here is a list of gifts given by Francois Antoine Laroque to a band of Indians:
Thursday 27th. Assembled the chiefs of the different Bands of the Rocky Mountains and made
them a present of
2 Large Axes
2 Small Axes
8 Ivory Combs
10 Wampum Shells
8 fire steels and Flint
4 cassetete
6 Masses B.C. Beads
4 f. Tobacco
8 (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) feathers
16 large Knives
12 Small do
2 lbs. Vermillion
8 doz. Rings
4 papers co’d Glasses
4 Doz. Awls
11/ lb. Blue Beads
2 Doz. do
1000 balls & powder


And here, James Clyman and his partner are near freezing and have problems holding the flint and steel to even get a fire going:
But all our calculations failed for as soon our hands became
exposed to the air they became so numb that we could not hold thee flint and Steel

Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: k snow] #8412667
06/02/25 09:16 AM
06/02/25 09:16 AM
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Pennsylvania
What is “do”?

Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: k snow] #8412669
06/02/25 09:18 AM
06/02/25 09:18 AM
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Wow, that's a cool account


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Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: elsmasho82] #8412671
06/02/25 09:19 AM
06/02/25 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
What is “do”?


That's an abbreviation for ditto, the same item as the line above.

For example:
16 large Knives
12 Small do.

Means 12 small knives

Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: k snow] #8412673
06/02/25 09:23 AM
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Gotcha

Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: k snow] #8412677
06/02/25 09:26 AM
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What these men did to try and maintain the peace so they could trap on Natives land is quite remarkable.

Thanks for the lesson.

Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: Rob & Neall] #8412686
06/02/25 09:31 AM
06/02/25 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob & Neall
What these men did to try and maintain the peace so they could trap on Natives land is quite remarkable.

Thanks for the lesson.


Being out numbered in the region by hundreds to one sure made them go to great lengths at times to "keep the peace."

The Blackfeet were so hostile that many trappers tried their luck in their territory, but almost all eventually quit trying.

The Crow were generally friendly, as long as you kept a close eye on your horses. Same with the Shoshone (or Snake).

Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: k snow] #8413283
06/03/25 08:29 AM
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I cannot imagine breakin through ice or somehow taking a dunk and trying to strike up a fire with primitive methods! Talk about intense.


What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.
Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers


Re: Mountain Man Monday 6/2 [Re: Leftlane] #8413285
06/03/25 08:35 AM
06/03/25 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
I cannot imagine breakin through ice or somehow taking a dunk and trying to strike up a fire with primitive methods! Talk about intense.


Montana Wolf Trapper posted a video on youtube of a "mountain man challenge" at and Idaho trapping get together. One of the events was trap setting in a tub of ice water, then chop wood and skin a rat with frozen hands. Fun to watch.

My first two years as a budding water trapper I worked with no rubber gloves, at times having your hands in the water was much warmer than having them in the air. But dang, they sure hurt when they warmed back up.

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