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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: PAskinner] #8415032
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
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An interesting question: what do people think of the Bible’s prophecy that Israel would be reestablished? In the entire history of mankind no other nation has been completely destroyed and spread throughout the world and then showed back up again.

What verse are you thinking of? Seems to me that already happened.


It already happened. They can be found in Isaiah 11:12, Jeremiah 30:1-38:22, Romans 11, and a few others. It’s things like that being correctly prophesied that make me wonder why people doubt the Bible. No other book in the world has ever come close to being that accurate in the past or, for then, future events.

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I'd say that most of the translations, will get the job done; with the exception of "interpertations/translations" done by particular sects that introduce their bias (wacky) beliefs.

However, the most accurate manuscripts are the oldest ones, preferably in their original languages, such as Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic. Problem is, you first need to learn those languages to read them. Therefore, most of us settle for second best.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415242
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What future prophesy or prophecies do you believe have yet to be fulfilled?


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415243
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Trapper7-Tectonics pushed the sea life up to the top. Scientists believe a huge meteor impact caused the demise of most prehistoric life. You must have mis-read me, I am looking for the link you had of fake fossils dating millions of years old.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415254
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Many of us credit God with creating the World and all that is in it, With that in mind we have virusus and bacterias that can mutate multiple times in a year. If God created all life then he created the ability for life forms to mutate. If we go back several hundred million years that gives life forms the ability to evolve, mutate, adapt and also go extinct.

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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415294
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Who cares about any of this. You either believe or don't. I believe in a mud creek bank a cold beer and a pretty young woman that hasn't figured out I wear a touppee

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Giant Sage] #8415906
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
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What future prophesy or prophecies do you believe have yet to be fulfilled?


Things such as the coming of the Anti-Christ, the Second Coming of Christ, and the eventual destruction of the earth.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Trapper5123] #8415919
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Who cares about any of this. You either believe or don't. I believe in a mud creek bank a cold beer and a pretty young woman that hasn't figured out I wear a touppee

Some of us have inquiring minds that rarely quit asking questions...I can never decide if it's a good thing or not.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415922
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Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Husky
What future prophesy or prophecies do you believe have yet to be fulfilled?


Things such as the coming of the Anti-Christ, the Second Coming of Christ, and the eventual destruction of the earth.

I've wondered if the anti christ is just one person or a personification symbolic of the anti christ presence that is always present in the world. I think Nero was one of the first anti Christ's.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415924
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Nero was anti Christ, but he was not THE Anti-Christ. The Bible says that when he is revealed the whole world will know.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415946
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Im confused. Ecclesiastes 1:4 says the earth will be here forever.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: danny clifton] #8415947
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Im confused. Ecclesiastes 1:4 says the earth will be here forever.


Could you quote that verse here please?

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8415948
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One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.


Context, Ecclesiastes is not a book of prophecy, it is a book of wisdom. As such it is not laying out a theological or eschatological framework instead it is describing the learned wisdom of the "preacher in Jerusalem", aka Solomon. In this context Solomon is an old man approaching his own mortal end of life reflecting upon his own life of the pursuit of wisdom and he concludes thusly; vanities of vanities there is nothing new under the sun and the sum of all wisdom is the fear of God.

In the case of the earth in this passage and the troubles of our time on earth, the earth was here long before and will be here long after we are but a footnote in history.

BTW, Ecclesiastes is my favorite book of the Bible.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416053
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Originally Posted by Husky
Nero was anti Christ, but he was not THE Anti-Christ. The Bible says that when he is revealed the whole world will know.

Chapter and verse? Everyone in the known world at the time was subject to Romes power weren't they?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Husky
What future prophesy or prophecies do you believe have yet to be fulfilled?


Things such as the coming of the Anti-Christ, the Second Coming of Christ, and the eventual destruction of the earth.

Sorry for the slow response Husky,
I also believe the second coming of Christ is a future fulfillment. Along with the earth as we know it ending.
My understanding of Antichrist is not of any one person. But as spoken of in John's epistles, denying the sovereignty of Christ with the Father. Any one who denies Jesus is the Christ is antichrist.
Wich includes Islam, and Jews along with the Gentile world that deny the resurrection.
I also believe in a future spiritual Jerusalem, in conjunction with the final throne judgment.
This heavenly Jerusalem with 12 foundations and 12 gates representing the fullness of the Gentiles.
Wich have been grafted in. The fulness of God's work.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416270
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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Providence Farm] #8416404
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Great read! Thanks for sharing!

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: PAskinner] #8416405
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Originally Posted by Husky
Nero was anti Christ, but he was not THE Anti-Christ. The Bible says that when he is revealed the whole world will know.

Chapter and verse? Everyone in the known world at the time was subject to Romes power weren't they?


I haven’t forgotten you, I still trying to piece together a good response.

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Originally Posted by Husky
Nero was anti Christ, but he was not THE Anti-Christ. The Bible says that when he is revealed the whole world will know.

Let me help you on chapter and verse.
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2 Thessalonians 2:3-7
Speaking of the son of perdition.
Many of the church fathers believe this was the papacy. As did the reformers.
It wasn't until the 16th century that idea of this being a singular person came about.
A Jesuit named Francisco Riveara or somthing like that came up with the idea af a singular Anti-Christ.
Anti-Christ in the bible only appears in the 1sr and 2nd epistles of John. Not in prophetic books.
It's a generic term for non believers.


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