Chapter and verse? Everyone in the known world at the time was subject to Romes power weren't they?

Sorry for the slow response Husky,
I also believe the second coming of Christ is a future fulfillment. Along with the earth as we know it ending.
My understanding of Antichrist is not of any one person. But as spoken of in John's epistles, denying the sovereignty of Christ with the Father. Any one who denies Jesus is the Christ is antichrist.
Wich includes Islam, and Jews along with the Gentile world that deny the resurrection.
I also believe in a future spiritual Jerusalem, in conjunction with the final throne judgment.
This heavenly Jerusalem with 12 foundations and 12 gates representing the fullness of the Gentiles.
Wich have been grafted in. The fulness of God's work.

https://answersingenesis.org/geolog...w6WvtOvLo8aNYjj8aqGQXI2Y9Yd2yomawP7bZbdZ


something for folks to ponder.

Great read! Thanks for sharing!

I haven’t forgotten you, I still trying to piece together a good response.

Let me help you on chapter and verse.


2 Thessalonians 2:3-7
Speaking of the son of perdition.
Many of the church fathers believe this was the papacy. As did the reformers.
It wasn't until the 16th century that idea of this being a singular person came about.
A Jesuit named Francisco Riveara or somthing like that came up with the idea af a singular Anti-Christ.
Anti-Christ in the bible only appears in the 1sr and 2nd epistles of John. Not in prophetic books.
It's a generic term for non believers.

I think Nimrod is most certainly the first representation of the antichrist.

Jesus tells us very plainly in nearly all the Gospels about what to expect. Especially in Matthew 24:37-39. Follow that rabbit hole Husky and see what was going on in the days of Noah.

Problem is, folks do more attending church than reading and understanding their very own Bibles IMO.

It's blasphemy to say that the Church has been compromised, but it has. Very few preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ anymore and what true salvation and redemption are. Many are "feel good" churches.
It is why membership in churches in the US is falling drastically.

The Bible is reliable.
However , there are folks who try to twist it to confirm a bias.
Science is also reliable when not twisted to confirm a bias.
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Hey Chancey, have you noticed when Jesus explains, as in the days of Noah. He does not mention the evilness of man's heart or the Giants. He speaks of the normalcy of the fact. Eating and drinking and marriage.
He also say no one will no but the father. So his description is not one of great tribulations or even some sign or signs to look for.
He also says one will be taken and one will be left.
Peaple that say the taken are the Rapture.
But in the day of Noah . Who did the flood take away?

Giant Sage, I just see it as Jesus setting the context on what to expect; nothing more. Letting us know what the world will likely be like upon His return.
How do you take verse 15 of the same chapter?

The world was certainly different after the flood; but Jesus specifically mentions that time period. If I take it in that context, then the Bible makes sense to me.

I no longer believe in the rapture although taught it my entire life; but I am a growing Christian and don't know much. I just read and study my Bible.

Verses 37-39 or a pretext to verses 15-31. IMO.

Husky,

As far as the reliability of the Bible, Read and take to heart Psalm 22. It pretty much describes our Lord's sacrifice hundreds of years before it happened. The first verse is even the same as what Jesus cried out on the cross. Isaiah is good too. One either believes it or they don't. Not our job to prove them wrong; just live by Christ.

Chancey I believe Matthew 24 is speaking of the distruction of the temple up to vs 33. then Jesus is speaking of his second coming . This I believe is simultaneous with the final throne judgment and the catching up of the saints.
Vs 15 is cross referenced with Luke 21:20 wich I beleave is the judgment Jesus spoke of in Matthew 23. The army's of Rome taking the Temple.
Luke 21:20 when you shall see Jerusalem compassed with army's, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Psalm 22, I was racking my brain trying to remember that passage.
Thanks Chance.

I think Constantine was another example of anti Christ. By forcing the mass conversion of the Roman empire into Christendom, it introduced paganist practices into the church.

Cool thing about the bible and God and Jesus, you have a free will to believe in it or not.
No matter of argument or evidence will convince some that it is true.

And others believe at first introduction.

Make your choice and live your life accordingly.

I think it is because of all those stories like people surviving being tossed into a furnace, a talking snake, manna from heaven, surviving being eaten by a great fish, on and on.

Husky, you wanted reliability.

Once you understand that Jesus is talking about the roman destruction of Jerusalem in Matthew 24, you can't unsee it. The verse that absolutely confirms it for me is when he talks about the vultures or eagles gathering around the carcasses. The Roman armies had eagles on thier shields. Plus Jesus plainly says it was to happen in that generation. You might be wondering about stars falling etc, but that is common hyperbolic language used in OT prophecy.

Just reading the previous chapter. Chapter 23 especially verses 29-39. Jesus is obviously speaking of judgment
In the generation that they are living in.
The distruction of Jerusalem in 70AD is one of the great proofs of the reliability of bible prophecy.