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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416619
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I think Nimrod is most certainly the first representation of the antichrist.

Jesus tells us very plainly in nearly all the Gospels about what to expect. Especially in Matthew 24:37-39. Follow that rabbit hole Husky and see what was going on in the days of Noah.

Problem is, folks do more attending church than reading and understanding their very own Bibles IMO.

It's blasphemy to say that the Church has been compromised, but it has. Very few preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ anymore and what true salvation and redemption are. Many are "feel good" churches.
It is why membership in churches in the US is falling drastically.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416621
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The Bible is reliable.
However , there are folks who try to twist it to confirm a bias.
Science is also reliable when not twisted to confirm a bias.
https://ncse.ngo/radiometric-dating-does-work


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Chancey] #8416622
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Originally Posted by Chancey
I think Nimrod is most certainly the first representation of the antichrist.

Jesus tells us very plainly in nearly all the Gospels about what to expect. Especially in Matthew 24:37-39. Follow that rabbit hole Husky and see what was going on in the days of Noah.

Problem is, folks do more attending church than reading and understanding their very own Bibles IMO.

It's blasphemy to say that the Church has been compromised, but it has. Very few preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ anymore and what true salvation and redemption are. Many are "feel good" churches.
It is why membership in churches in the US is falling drastically.

Hey Chancey, have you noticed when Jesus explains, as in the days of Noah. He does not mention the evilness of man's heart or the Giants. He speaks of the normalcy of the fact. Eating and drinking and marriage.
He also say no one will no but the father. So his description is not one of great tribulations or even some sign or signs to look for.
He also says one will be taken and one will be left.
Peaple that say the taken are the Rapture.
But in the day of Noah . Who did the flood take away?


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416627
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Giant Sage, I just see it as Jesus setting the context on what to expect; nothing more. Letting us know what the world will likely be like upon His return.
How do you take verse 15 of the same chapter?

The world was certainly different after the flood; but Jesus specifically mentions that time period. If I take it in that context, then the Bible makes sense to me.

I no longer believe in the rapture although taught it my entire life; but I am a growing Christian and don't know much. I just read and study my Bible.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416630
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Verses 37-39 or a pretext to verses 15-31. IMO.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416632
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Husky,

As far as the reliability of the Bible, Read and take to heart Psalm 22. It pretty much describes our Lord's sacrifice hundreds of years before it happened. The first verse is even the same as what Jesus cried out on the cross. Isaiah is good too. One either believes it or they don't. Not our job to prove them wrong; just live by Christ.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Chancey] #8416635
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Chancey I believe Matthew 24 is speaking of the distruction of the temple up to vs 33. then Jesus is speaking of his second coming . This I believe is simultaneous with the final throne judgment and the catching up of the saints.
Vs 15 is cross referenced with Luke 21:20 wich I beleave is the judgment Jesus spoke of in Matthew 23. The army's of Rome taking the Temple.
Luke 21:20 when you shall see Jerusalem compassed with army's, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Chancey] #8416636
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Husky,

As far as the reliability of the Bible, Read and take to heart Psalm 22. It pretty much describes our Lord's sacrifice hundreds of years before it happened. The first verse is even the same as what Jesus cried out on the cross. Isaiah is good too. One either believes it or they don't. Not our job to prove them wrong; just live by Christ.

Psalm 22, I was racking my brain trying to remember that passage.
Thanks Chance.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416671
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I think Constantine was another example of anti Christ. By forcing the mass conversion of the Roman empire into Christendom, it introduced paganist practices into the church.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416677
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Cool thing about the bible and God and Jesus, you have a free will to believe in it or not.
No matter of argument or evidence will convince some that it is true.

And others believe at first introduction.

Make your choice and live your life accordingly.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416684
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It is why membership in churches in the US is falling drastically


I think it is because of all those stories like people surviving being tossed into a furnace, a talking snake, manna from heaven, surviving being eaten by a great fish, on and on.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: danny clifton] #8416707
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It is why membership in churches in the US is falling drastically


I think it is because of all those stories like people surviving being tossed into a furnace, a talking snake, manna from heaven, surviving being eaten by a great fish, on and on.

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Husky, you wanted reliability.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416727
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Once you understand that Jesus is talking about the roman destruction of Jerusalem in Matthew 24, you can't unsee it. The verse that absolutely confirms it for me is when he talks about the vultures or eagles gathering around the carcasses. The Roman armies had eagles on thier shields. Plus Jesus plainly says it was to happen in that generation. You might be wondering about stars falling etc, but that is common hyperbolic language used in OT prophecy.


Right now Im having amnesia and dj vu at the same time. I think Ive forgotten this before.
Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: PAskinner] #8416736
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Once you understand that Jesus is talking about the roman destruction of Jerusalem in Matthew 24, you can't unsee it. The verse that absolutely confirms it for me is when he talks about the vultures or eagles gathering around the carcasses. The Roman armies had eagles on thier shields. Plus Jesus plainly says it was to happen in that generation. You might be wondering about stars falling etc, but that is common hyperbolic language used in OT prophecy.

Just reading the previous chapter. Chapter 23 especially verses 29-39. Jesus is obviously speaking of judgment
In the generation that they are living in.
The distruction of Jerusalem in 70AD is one of the great proofs of the reliability of bible prophecy.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: PAskinner] #8416737
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Maybe when Jesus talks of the end times he talking about the end of a country, era or your own life. We'll all find out at our end of time.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Spike369] #8416770
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Maybe when Jesus talks of the end times he talking about the end of a country, era or your own life. We'll all find out at our end of time.

I believe he speaks of all three scenarios. Depending on the context of the passage.
(As far as the reliability of the Bible goes.) Many of these prophecies have been fulfilled.
Obviously the end of life will answer Questions If there is life after death,
If not then it's just back to the dirt I suppose. Fulfilled prophecy is confirmation of course.
But my faith is because of the changes in my life. The Holy spirit moving and teaching me, and confirming in my heart God's existence. Anyone who has become born again and has the spirit guiding them would understand what I'm speaking of. Was blind but now I see. Just like Saul's conversation.
He went from being antichrist, persecuting Christ to being a warrior for Christ.
All by Revelation. He was blind till his eyes were open to truth.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416798
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Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
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What future prophesy or prophecies do you believe have yet to be fulfilled?


Things such as the coming of the Anti-Christ, the Second Coming of Christ, and the eventual destruction of the earth.

Some people thought Hitler was the anti-Christ at that time. However, he didn't fit the prophesy. The anti-Christ is yet to come. Jesus will return after that happens.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Trapper7] #8416826
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(The antichrist will comes, Jesus will return after that happens. )

Trapper 7, if you could give verses or passages that comfirm the antichrist is coming.
And Jesus will return after that happens.
This would be helpful. Thank you.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8416854
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I don't think most folks are quite prepared for the bloodshed when Jesus comes again on Earth....Rev 14:20

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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
I don't think most folks are quite prepared for the bloodshed when Jesus comes again on Earth....Rev 14:20

Isn't Revelation ch 14 about the distruction of Jerusalem?


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