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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417107
06/09/25 10:33 PM
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Those elusive white supremely people again that we hear about but never see if they were everything they claim they are they would be on a loop in the MSM 24/7/365. LOL Pathetic as it gets.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Bigbrownie] #8417112
06/09/25 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Pretty sure illegals don't have constitutional rights.


The Constitution protects all people living in the United States, regardless of immigration status. Most constitutional provisions apply based on personhood, not citizenship. In other words, if an individual is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution. This includes the right to due process and equal protection under the law.


I see that as basic human rights not constitutional rights and constitutional rights reserved for citizens. Regardless once you break the law you forfeit many of your rights. You get locked up, loose gun & voting rights dependent on crime ect..




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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Bigbrownie] #8417115
06/09/25 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Pretty sure illegals don't have constitutional rights.


The Constitution protects all people living in the United States, regardless of immigration status. Most constitutional provisions apply based on personhood, not citizenship. In other words, if an individual is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution. This includes the right to due process and equal protection under the law.


I stand corrected. Appears you are correct. Learned something new today.


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417122
06/09/25 10:55 PM
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Correct, but I doubt the framers intended for the law to protect 20 plus million illegal immigrants. Impossible to give each one of them due process. USA was molested by the Democrats. The act of getting them here was illegal but the act of sending them back is protected by the Constitution.

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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: yotetrapper30] #8417123
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Pretty sure illegals don't have constitutional rights.



This


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417127
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Me and you both Yote.

Doesn't change the fact that it burns my butt that folks are over here burning our flag, spitting on it, etc. all while declaring safety from the very thing they are griping about.

Give them due process, and then get them the heck out of here!


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Bigbrownie] #8417128
06/09/25 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Pretty sure illegals don't have constitutional rights.


The Constitution protects all people living in the United States, regardless of immigration status. Most constitutional provisions apply based on personhood, not citizenship. In other words, if an individual is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution. This includes the right to due process and equal protection under the law.



I'm not sure this Flys in the wake of an invasion.....at least not to Trump ....nor should it


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: ol' dad] #8417130
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
Correct, but I doubt the framers intended for the law to protect 20 plus million illegal immigrants. Impossible to give each one of them due process. USA was molested by the Democrats. The act of getting them here was illegal but the act of sending them back is protected by the Constitution.

Ol dad



Touche' Ol' dad. Good point.


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417148
06/09/25 11:33 PM
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they skipped there due process getting in, we should skip there due process getting them out.


Anyone that owns a gun and votes democrat deserves to have there gun taken, cause they truly are too stupid to own a gun.
Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Bigbrownie] #8417166
06/10/25 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Immigration round up in LA.Time for some vintage Cheech and Chong!



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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417169
06/10/25 12:49 AM
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If you got plans this weekend avoid the cities. Calls for nationwide protests. Tell me that it aint astr turfed paid for civil unrest.

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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417179
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Keep in mind what's been done over the years to flood us with illegals and little has been done with the flow coming into the country. Where were these Judges when everything was manipulated to increase the flow coming across the border?

Illegals were reclassified as asylum seekers to skirt the law knowing the majority were invisible in their own country and true asylum seekers could have used the steps we have in place already. They were coached on how to get past the laws using key phrases to get into the country nothing was done about that.

The story is Obummer was the Big Deporter that's just his fuzzy math because early on he stopped ICE from picking them up at jails across the country ICE was not allowed to pick them up it was catch and release no paperwork after that, no jail would take them no detainers were issued. So just where would a record number of people to deport even come from if that was the #1 way of enforcing the law? Its BS

The previous administration lied about everything to gain more illegals at any cost yet where were these activist judges then? They put in an incoming express lane in a way then they deny the same way to exit for the same people that's nuts.


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417202
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I am on a job that starts in a rural area south of Kansas City to a rural area North of Kansas city. Shortest route takes me to down town KC. All interstate and 4 lane. Not on the stop lights etc of down town. Hope this mess does not show up there. I dont understand why people are displaying foreign flags. If they were not attempting to become American why are they here? Why do some Americans think open borders are a good thing? Why is it so hard to make it easier for the guy who wants to be American, earn an honest living and take care of his family, to come here legally?

Due process just means an appearance before an immigration judge. I believe they are getting that. Might only be 5 or ten minutes but so far as I know a judge is looking at evidence they are here illegally.


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417203
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I'll be headed into what's now little Mexico in Little Rock this weekend for Father's Day. Wonder if I should carry?

Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Bigbrownie] #8417229
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Pretty sure illegals don't have constitutional rights.


The Constitution protects all people living in the United States, regardless of immigration status. Most constitutional provisions apply based on personhood, not citizenship. In other words, if an individual is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution. This includes the right to due process and equal protection under the law.

If your invaded by foreign countries your not allowed to fight back?You have to round the invaders up and give them due process?I dont think so.Foreigners coming illegally into our country and killing,,raping and taking over properties to me is War.War criminals dont get rights.


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Bigbrownie] #8417238
06/10/25 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Pretty sure illegals don't have constitutional rights.


The Constitution protects all people living in the United States, regardless of immigration status. Most constitutional provisions apply based on personhood, not citizenship. In other words, if an individual is physically present in the US, they are entitled to the protections granted by the Constitution. This includes the right to due process and equal protection under the law.


If the Japanese had known this they probably would have come ashore and not worried about what was behind every blade of grass.

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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417307
06/10/25 09:41 AM
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If the politicians are not ignoring the law they are perverting it to get what they want through manipulation in the courts. It seems judges are suddenly interested in the rule of law also when just a few years ago they needed to be pushed into do anything no matter how illegal or bizarre an action was happening.


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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8417351
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by loosegoose
While I don't agree with their cause, lets not forget.......

America was founded by people that rioted, committed treasonous acts, murdered police/soldiers, vandalized, destroyed private property, committed arson, and talked about killing politicians and government agents.

Some of the things you all are saying would have made king george proud to have you on his side.


Not even close to the same thing going on here, but for you (or one of a few others in here) to make this comment is not surprising. SMH

Maybe you missed the first sentence of my post. I've bolded it for your ease of reading.

Really though they're not that different than the country's founders. The founders were treasonous rebels who hated their country and its rulers and laws and everything it stood for. These protesters are treasonous rebels who hate their country and it's rulers and laws and everything it stands for,

The only difference is that our countries founders won (the winners write the history books) and we agreed with their cause. These clowns will lose, and we don't agree with their cause.

If the founders had lost, and we were still british, we'd look back on them as miserable treasonous wretches who got what they deserved when deserved when we hung them from a tall tree.

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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: warrior] #8417354
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Now that we have covered illegals have rights yet again, maybe we should check on the legality of using the military for domestic policing?

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Re: So it begins - Summer of Love [Re: Dirt] #8417357
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Now that we have covered illegals have rights yet again, maybe we should check on the legality of using the military for domestic policing?



lol, yeah, also not allowed. They will only be allowed to support the law enforcement. Similar to when the navy helps with drug smuggling at the border. They have to have the coast guard or other police with them to do the actual law enforcement.





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