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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8419494
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you.. "I would lean more towards eternal separation or ever utterly destroyed."
just because it sounds better doesn't make it better the (truth) is its a flawed plan
and the rest of the world before they could even know (the right god) what happens to them
sorry you missed out born at the wrong time and place they had souls right

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8419496
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Does the clay tell the potter what to make? Seems like lots of folks believe the clay should.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8419508
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clay.. we are alive clay isn't

PS I'm not agree, sad, mad...just want the most important thing in the world.... truth

be kind to all, love some, help others, work to leave better knowledge for the next generation.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8419513
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^^^^^
It's a metaphor.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: wildlifeartist1] #8419518
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Originally Posted by wildlifeartist1
clay.. we are alive clay isn't

PS I'm not agree, sad, mad...just want the most important thing in the world.... truth

be kind to all, love some, help others, work to leave better knowledge for the next generation.

Sounds like you are seeking pretty much the same thing I'm seeking.
I can't speak for others but truth, kindness, love, and knowledge are all good things to seek after.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: wildlifeartist1] #8419539
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Originally Posted by wildlifeartist1
you.. "I would lean more towards eternal separation or ever utterly destroyed."
just because it sounds better doesn't make it better the (truth) is its a flawed plan
and the rest of the world before they could even know (the right god) what happens to them
sorry you missed out born at the wrong time and place they had souls right

That's a good question. You know Jesus preached to the souls in hades, correct? At least according to some interpretations.
But not knowing everything shouldn't hinder our search for God. As far as being kind to everyone, that's great, except we have all failed to do that to some degree. We all fall short and need saving. Thinking we can be good by ourselves is insanity if we are honest about it.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Giant Sage] #8420280
06/15/25 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
T7 I fully agree with you on the importance of the gospel.
And your last post.
I don't have any issues with others eschatological beliefs.
We are created with free will and with individuality.
I consider you a brother in Christ.

Thank you for your kind words, brother.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8420285
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
T7 I fully agree with you on the importance of the gospel.
And your last post.
I don't have any issues with others eschatological beliefs.
We are created with free will and with individuality.
I consider you a brother in Christ.


Trapper7 - Your last post as well very much summed up my beliefs and I agree with Giant Sage. I really enjoy when men can get into Gods Word and analyze it and learn as we sharpen one another. I admit, the more I read, the more the Holy Spirit reveals to me and can reveal different lessons at different times. Gods Word is inerrant and yes we may not always agree on every scripture and I am just fine with that.

Thank you for your post. I agree with you 100%.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8420307
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The Bible is a living lesson.
Every time you read it , you learn something new.
Reread it a few times, along with all the verses, all the parables , you find a new meaning.
It's just words , yet it teaches you to think , to understand things change, even while you're reading it!
Just how it seems to change my philosophy every time I read it!


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8420329
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
The Bible is a living lesson.
Every time you read it , you learn something new.
Reread it a few times, along with all the verses, all the parables , you find a new meaning.
It's just words , yet it teaches you to think , to understand things change, even while you're reading it!
Just how it seems to change my philosophy every time I read it!

Most definitely,
Gods word is a living word.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8420604
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With current events unfolding today, it is extremely exciting to know what Gods Word says about these events. There will be a time, when Persia (Iran) will again get along with Israel. And pride check - can't find anywhere where we (USA) are promised a Biblical future. Could be a reference to as wings of eagle and airlifts.........but not sure about that.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8420691
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TreedaBlackdog,
Can you help me out on the prophecy of Persia and Israel will get along.
Thanks in advance.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8420858
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
The Bible is a living lesson.
Every time you read it , you learn something new.
Reread it a few times, along with all the verses, all the parables , you find a new meaning.
It's just words , yet it teaches you to think , to understand things change, even while you're reading it!
Just how it seems to change my philosophy every time I read it!

This right here. The Bible has to be not just read but studied. So many different parts of the Bible relate to each other. To me, the Bible is the most incredible book out there.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8420911
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yes study the bible all of the bible and you will fine that's it's just a good book of embellished stories, magic, conquering heroes and evil villains of ancient people trying to make
sense of the competitive world they lived in (just like now)
doesn't have to be more then that to learn something from it many books do it

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8421042
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The only other books that contribute to our eternal destination are books that teach from the Bible. Still the best selling book ever.


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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8421046
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Bible says two men aught not to lay together

… but I don’t see the good lord sending someone like Lefty to hades mmmhmmm


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Savell] #8421049
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Originally Posted by Savell
Bible says two men aught not to lay together

… but I don’t see the good lord sending someone like Lefty to hades mmmhmmm


Folks in Sodom and Gomorrah had similar thoughts as you..........
wink

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Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Giant Sage] #8421052
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
TreedaBlackdog,
Can you help me out on the prophecy of Persia and Israel will get along.
Thanks in advance.



Believe it is in Isaiah but I will try to find it. Talks about those coming alongside Israel - does not say Iran but Persia - same as interpreted as where wise men came from........but I am pretty sure most scholars would say past Persia would be todays Iran.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Husky] #8421054
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Will say in Ezekiel 38-39 we see Persia (Iran) as likely being an attacker of Israel also. Currently unfolding and again open to interpretation.

Re: Reliability of the Bible [Re: Giant Sage] #8421058
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
TreedaBlackdog,
Can you help me out on the prophecy of Persia and Israel will get along.
Thanks in advance.

I was thinking about Ezekiel 38: 1-8. It states Persia (Iran) will gather with some of the others in that region to come up against Israel. Am I interpreting that wrong?


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