Isaiah 11 - I believe is what I am remembering in my study. I have copied below another reference to what was similar in my study - apologize for the depth but it is interesting to myself and possibly others who possibly believe that Egypt and Iran will come alongside Israel - there will be much bloodshed first, but there will be a time come as Isaiah 11 speaks.



Just as the Purim deliverance is a story remarkable turnaround: a story of annihilation and violence but with a happy ending, so Passover has the same themes. Starting with systematic genocide of baby boys, unbearable oppression and slavery, the gods of Egypt are assaulted one by one as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob rains down plagues until His people are set free. In one of the most dramatic stories in the entire Bible, God saves His people with a miraculous deliverance, and the tables are turned on Israel’s enemies. However in both stories, we see multitudes of people, from both Egypt and Iran, joining the house of Israel as they witness the redemption that God brings.



In both stories, the peoples of Egypt and Iran give Israel all that they need for the tabernacle and then the temple in order to worship the One True God.

We also see the story of Yeshua’s first coming fits a similar pattern: starting with the genocide of baby boys, fraught with danger and persecution, an apparently hopeless situation which turns around to be the destruction of the enemy and and great joy breaking out as a result.

This is the pattern laid out for us that is repeated throughout Scripture, and will crescendo in the Ultimate Redemption ushering in the Messianic Age.

The promises of Isaiah 11
Here’s a great passage full of promise of the goodness to come:

The wolf shall dwell with the lamb,
and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together;
and a little child shall lead them.
The cow and the bear shall graze;
their young shall lie down together;
and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra,
and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder’s den.
They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain;
for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.
(Isaiah 11:6-9)

Finally, little ones will be totally safe. People have found the Hebrew names of the Bibas children in this passage, Kfir and Ariel, which mean a lion’s cub and a lion of God. In our devastation about the horrors of war, the passage brings hope and comfort that another reality is coming when Yeshua returns. Wrong will be put right.

However, what people often miss is the chapter before, and what leads to this idyllic state.

Isaiah 10 is a chapter full of judgement and wrath, mostly directed at the enemies of Israel. Isaiah 11 then begins with the promise of redemption and the introduction of the Messiah. While both these chapters have already been fulfilled in part, this is the pattern.

Of course, most Christians immediately identify the “shoot from the stump of Jesse” as Yeshua, Son of David, the son of Jesse, and rightly so. But many leap to the conclusion that the passage is all about the first coming. However, in most Messianic prophecies you’ll see the first AND the second coming in the same passage. Christians tend to see the incarnation, and Jewish people tend to see the grand finale. Both are usually there.

When we read verses 4-5 we are actually seeing a picture of Yeshua at the end of time, ruling and reigning as King of all the earth. He has all power, all authority, and this time He is not holding back:

With righteousness he shall judge the poor,
and decide with equity for the meek of the earth;
and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth,
and with the breath of his lips he shall kill the wicked.
Righteousness shall be the belt of his waist,
and faithfulness the belt of his loins.

This picture matches Revelation 19:

Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. (Revelation 19:11-13)

The Messiah in Isaiah 11 is now ruling in power and killing the wicked. He is striking the earth and judging its inhabitants. Quite different to the first coming. He is righteous, faithful, and true, but He means business and He has blood on his robe. Whose blood? Not His this time. He is making war against His enemies in order to bring righteousness and justice. This is what it will take to bring about the Eden-like vision of Isaiah 11.

Redemption requires a rescue from enemies
So the story of Purim resembles and repeats the story of Passover, and the ultimate Redemption described in Isaiah 11 — the “Geula” as its known in Hebrew —will also resemble the deliverances manifested in ages past like Passover and Purim, but on a greater level.

Funnily enough, the Passover event, which foreshadowed the redemption from sin and death at calvary, is right in the middle of the story of Purim:


Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write this as a memorial in a book and recite it in the ears of Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.” And Moses built an altar and called the name of it, The Lord Is My Banner, saying, “A hand upon the throne of the Lord! The Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.” (Exodus 17:14-16)

Amalek tried to destroy Israel right after the Exodus, and later King Saul was told to wipe them out completely, centuries before the time of Esther. This was a task he failed to accomplish which led to wicked Haman, descended from the king of the Amalekites, standing in the palace of Persia with the same genocidal intentions. The same spirit operates today in opposition to God and His purposes, but the Messiah will ultimately defeat all His enemies.

The sign of the throne of God
In Exodus 17:16, the Hebrew for the words “throne of the Lord” [כס יה] are both spelled unconventionally, missing half their letters. Some have interpreted this to signify a promise from God: “that His Name will not be complete and His throne will not be complete until the name of Amalek is completely obliterated. And when his name is obliterated, the Divine Name will be complete, and the throne will be complete.”3 This refers to Psalm 9, a powerful, imprecatory psalm which describes the final end of Israel’s enemies and God taking His throne forever.

When the Lord has soundly defeated His enemies in the spiritual and the natural realms, the Prince of Peace, the Lord of lords and King of kings will take His place. He will stand as a sign, raised as a banner to all the people of the world, and He will sit on the throne that is rightfully His and rule with justice. God’s great redemption is coming. And it’s coming soon.

In that day the root of Jesse, who shall stand as a signal for the peoples—of him shall the nations inquire, and his resting place shall be glorious.
(Isaiah 11:10)



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No - you are correct.

Jews are very much into patterns - much more so than the US church speaks of. They know what the prophecies say, though most still have "their eyes closed" on who Jesus was and is today. As Gentiles though, we still are to pray for them and the peace of Jerusalem. The Purim and Passover has much more meaning to the Jews as compared to the Gentile Church of the US. Some of my favorite teachers are messianic Jews who truly know Jesus as Messiah. They help me to understand what the teachings of Jesus meant to fellow Jews that I definitely did not grow up learning.

A simple study on Jewish wedding and feast will bring up much knowledge of what the church means as the bride of Christ. Even the groom (Jesus) doesn't know the time He is returning for His bride (church). It is appointed by the father(God). This is simple to understand for Jews as that is how they get married..........foreign to us.

Those verses have to do with the invasion of Israel and Persia is one of the invaders is the way I read it. Some scholars speculate that Gog is Russia. Though Russia is not specifically named, Rosh is believed to its territory. Magog are some of its allies, such as Communist China possibly. If true, that would make Russia the leader of the assault. America is not found anywhere in the bible. Either they no longer exist when all this comes to be, or there is another reference to them.

… so Leftlane is going to get turned into salt or something like that?

Some interesting interpretation.

Or...that was already fulfilled by Christ.
Let’s ask the apostle Paul. He quoted the verse as being fulfilled in his own lifetime: “IN THAT DAY the root of Jesse, who shall stand as a signal for the peoples—of Him shall the nations inquire, and His resting place shall be glorious” (Isaiah 11:10). Romans 15:12, where Paul cites this verse, reads this way: “The root of Jesse will come, even He who arises to rule the Gentiles, in Him will the Gentiles hope” (Romans 15:12).
The wolf (Gentiles), now dwells safely with the lamb (Jews), among those who belong to Christ. There's no more Jew or Gentiles. In reality the chosen people are all that are in Christ from any nation.

the mental gymnastics to make things fit
john the baptist jesus and paul were all apocalyptic preachers
and thought the end times were in their lifetime along with so many other
one thing is for sure we are all going to die in your own lifetime.

You got that right.
And to die ones is what I prefer.

…. If leftlane gets turned into salt for being gay…. I’ll put him in a shaker and season a steak with him so he don’t go to waste

Savell,
You are funny. So is leftlane the salt of the earth then?

You sayin he ain’t?

…. Naw I just think he has homosexual tendencies and would have looked back at sodom and gamora in the day …. Could even have a barrel racing buckle or two in his collection

…. I have no concrete evidence on any of that …. Just a vibe I get from the interactions I’ve had with him on here


…. All we can do at this point is pray for him

No lol, I was just trying to decode Savells theology.

Good luck with that GS.

Matt: 24-36, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaver, nor the Son, but the Father alone".

Please tell me how this relates to what I posted?
four verses later in Romans 15:12:

For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy.

What promises? The Torah points to Christ.

but of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaver, nor the son, but the father alone.

sounds like there's 2 gods to me how can he not know if they are the same god
or one god and a demigod that was common back then fathers always new more than the son .
glad they came up with the trinity to make it less confusing 1+1+1 = 1 get it.
i know i'm a father,bother,and a son and one person
you have to do better than that... those are just names for one person not individuals
back to the original question how reliable is the bible
I feel a reliable source would be less confusing and not need so many interpretations
this part is a just a story this one is true this one just has meaning this is in the future
then someone with limited knowledge to explain it century after century. to come
up with new rules all the time ,new meanings to fit those times as human
knowledge changes and discoveries are made it has become less and less ... true and reliable

Matthew 24:34 verify I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Posably 2 seperate answers to two separate events.
Vs 34 distruction of the temple 70 ad.
Vs 35 on, Christ return and the final throne judgment.