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Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422243
06/19/25 08:05 AM
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ScottW, I’m with you. Public land was set aside by the greatest president in U.S. history, who understood the long-term value this land would provide toward not just recreation, but CONSERVATION. Without this land, the North American Model of Conservation would be lost, along with all the hunting and trapping rights every person on Trapperman enjoys. These dudes don’t get it, don’t want to get it, and won’t ever get it. It’s a selfish mindset.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422283
06/19/25 09:11 AM
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15 million acres up for grabs in Wy alone, Im sure the timber companies and coal companies will let you hunt for the right price.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422292
06/19/25 09:24 AM
06/19/25 09:24 AM
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Coal companies will not be buying timberlands, lol. And if you think timber companies could afford it , I don't think so.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Pafoxman] #8422325
06/19/25 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
It's a terrible, short sighted bill. Teddy Roosevelt is turning in his grave. The bill lists3-5 million acres must be sold,
however, it makes 250 million acres eligible. And it's not just about trapping, people. This land has miles of pristine public waters that is great fishing, and millions of acres of public hunting areas. For any outdoorsman and conservationist to support this shows a blind, follow the Leader, sheep mentality.


I'm not even American and agree here. Someone will make out like a bandit selling hunting leases though.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: danvee] #8422342
06/19/25 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
15 million acres up for grabs in Wy alone, Im sure the timber companies and coal companies will let you hunt for the right price.

Trapping sure pays better than those two jobs. One coal mine probably supports more families than all the trapping in Wyoming.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422350
06/19/25 11:34 AM
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Probably in a week or possibly one day, makes more money.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422355
06/19/25 11:41 AM
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Federal land u.s.

I don’t know how fishing,hunting, and trapping can even occur east of the Colorado State line?

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Who is John Galt?
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Dirt] #8422380
06/19/25 01:06 PM
06/19/25 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Scott, I won't be calling.

I don't think the federal government should own as much as they do.

Wouldn't privitizing public land be something conservative free market people support?

No.

Privatizing public land will make us like Europe. Or Texas, where no one can hunt, trap, or recreate anywhere unless they are either rich and pay for the privilige or are employed by the landowner to "manage" the wildlife.

I strongly suspect that the vast majority, if not all of the ground you personally hunt and trap on is public. You obviously don't believe it will happen to you, but these proposal would open the door to all that land being sold and no one but those approved by the buyer being allowed on it.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Dirt] #8422394
06/19/25 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Federal land u.s.

I don’t know how fishing,hunting, and trapping can even occur east of the Colorado State line?

Just another difference between east and west American
But we also have state lands to hunt on here in Pennsylvania, 2 million+ acres

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422412
06/19/25 01:49 PM
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What would really help stop these sales is if more people were affected. Once again I am completely against the sale. In the early 2000's I hunted antelope, elk, and mule deer on public land. Folks out West would not like it but they need more out of state outdoor folks coming in. Federal land is owned by everyone in the US. However a NR Elk tag in MT is $1100 so for your average Midwestern/Eastern deer hunter that hunt is never going to happen even if self guided. Now if they make federal land NR tags cheaper since the whole US is paying to keep them up things might change as more people are affected. Fact is like it or not the vast majority of Americans will not be affected if sales occur, outdoorsman or not. The whole state of WY can be up in arms over the sale but the state of FL has 40x's the number of people who if they go to WY will just hit Yellowstone and Grand Tetons. Say 2000 people from FL hunt in WY every year. That is 0.005% of the population of FL. If WY has 60K NR hunters a year that equates to roughly 0.002% of the US population. Just using WY as an example.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Pafoxman] #8422419
06/19/25 01:59 PM
06/19/25 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
It's a terrible, short sighted bill. Teddy Roosevelt is turning in his grave. The bill lists3-5 million acres must be sold,
however, it makes 250 million acres eligible. And it's not just about trapping, people. This land has miles of pristine public waters that is great fishing, and millions of acres of public hunting areas. For any outdoorsman and conservationist to support this shows a blind, follow the Leader, sheep mentality.

X2!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422430
06/19/25 02:39 PM
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Hate to tell you bearcat2, but privatizing public land has been happening to me for over 30 years. It has supported a lot of local and non local economic activity. Hunting has not changed much other than increased opportunity for new landowners to hunt from cabins. Probably more recreational trappers because of this too. Still endless public land to operate on too. It will take decades if not a century before this place even gets close to only 50 percent public land. Much of the public land is worthless.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: Leroy Bob] #8422433
06/19/25 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
ScottW, I’m with you. Public land was set aside by the greatest president in U.S. history, who understood the long-term value this land would provide toward not just recreation, but CONSERVATION. Without this land, the North American Model of Conservation would be lost, along with all the hunting and trapping rights every person on Trapperman enjoys. These dudes don’t get it, don’t want to get it, and won’t ever get it. It’s a selfish mindset.

Greatest? He was the worst till recent times. He gets a lot of credit because of the war and conservation but he was a socialist the rest of his time. He was the original progressive.

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8422437
06/19/25 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
ScottW, I’m with you. Public land was set aside by the greatest president in U.S. history, who understood the long-term value this land would provide toward not just recreation, but CONSERVATION. Without this land, the North American Model of Conservation would be lost, along with all the hunting and trapping rights every person on Trapperman enjoys. These dudes don’t get it, don’t want to get it, and won’t ever get it. It’s a selfish mindset.

Greatest? He was the worst till recent times. He gets a lot of credit because of the war and conservation but he was a socialist the rest of his time. He was the original progressive.

I think he was referring to Teddy.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422439
06/19/25 02:56 PM
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so was SNIPERBBB

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: white marlin] #8422441
06/19/25 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
so was SNIPERBBB

Bull Moose party


Who is John Galt?
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422442
06/19/25 02:58 PM
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If we didn't have teddy, we wouldn't of had Woodrow Wilson and likely never had FDR

Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: white marlin] #8422443
06/19/25 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
so was SNIPERBBB

Could of fooled me lol. His description sure sounded like FDR. Me personally, I think the Rough Rider was pretty awesome. To each their own I reckon. I don't think any public lands should be sold or messed with, ever!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8422447
06/19/25 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
If we didn't have teddy, we wouldn't of had Woodrow Wilson and likely never had FDR

Well that's a Taft twist lol. That'd be an interesting thread!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Help stop the sale of OUR public lands!!!!! Now! [Re: ScottW] #8422461
06/19/25 03:25 PM
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So emminent domain to take your house is good but selling it back is bad?

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