I don't know how long it takes to go into effect but Sbr sbs and suppressors should be walk In pay background check approved and leave with it just like a typical gun.



Dad may have got a little ahead of himself I have not found where it made it through congress yet looking now.

Edit dad confirmed he misunderstood and it was a pressure speech he was watching not him signing the bill.

Will the States be required to allow their people to have them not all states honored the NFA stamp tax in some states?

Shouldn't even need anything special. What do they do that's so dangerous to peoples well being?

Definitely not Illinois, Bubba the Hut won't allow in his kingdom.
Mean while, his family pumped millions of $$ for their " Mission 94" range just over the Wi/Il border.
On top of that he , and his cronies in the sleepy Joe regime decided to audit all the local FFLs and came up with reasons to shut down.
Obviously right before pickle head was voted out.

one of the odd things is that europe you basically have to have a suppressor to hunt in many countries but its not allowed here though some states do allow it

Exactly , it's like buying a choke tube for your shotgun..
We hunt with 3 Berettas equipped with Salvo 12 suppressors , and use bismuth/ tungsten reloads that sound like a rolling thunder in the distance. ( just outside of the 100 yard stand-off)
Nothing like my buddy 500 yards upriver with a BPS and Ithaca 10 ...

Hollywood and people's ignorance. It's only close to Hollywood quiet shooting subsonic ammo. Doing that ballistics suck as well as terminal performance. Just as well off or better off running a broad head through a deer for terminal performance and range will be close on both.

I think that suppressors will fly off the shelf and the wait times will then be on manufacturing. Kind of a wash. Lots already sold out with the reduced approval time.

And why I put some I want on lay a way this month. Made them spoken for and allowed me some time to wait for this bill to pass and if it does I can walk in and pick them up without them being sold out and on back order for a year.

Senate Parliamentarian saying NOPE!

Despite SC ruling it's a tax and CAN be adjusted or removed during reconciliation.

So, it's a tax until they want it to not be, lol

Was unconstitutional unless called a tax just like social security.

As such, it is within their purview, YET Thune already said they will not challenge the Parliamentarian.

Rs can say " we tried" Ds can.claim.a gun control win.

So, it was a bargaining chip, and we get used.
Again

The moral of the story is,
Don't count your chickens before they hatch

LOL, been around long enough I figured the good stuff would get stripped out, and the pork and waste would comtinue

That's it ever was, was a bargaining chip. These senators have tons of people that work for them to review legislation, there's no way they didn't know from the get-go that it wouldn't fly.

Both Ds and Rs so the same thing......claim they're going to fix something, then don't fix it, and say "vote for me, I promise I'll fix it next time.". If they actually fixed anything, they wouldn't have anything to run on in the next election. Guaranteed there will be republicans in the next election cycle promising to finally pass the hearing protection act. Just like last time, and the time before that.

It is to bad they won’t let us make our own. $1000 bucks for 100$ worth of parts sucks.

you can make your own. File a fourm 1 and pay 200 for the stamp and when it's approved have at it.

Complete horse hockey to have to file a form and pay for permission.

Silencer central has a free tax stamp sale going on now.

Did not know that. Years ago some friend got arrested for manufacturing one in the colleges engineering department. Must have forgotten to pay to pass go.

It's typical Republican bs. Now they can claim I'm pro gun it was that democrat that stoped us. Don't worry we will try again next time. All while leaving out they could have removed her from the position but left her in place just for this reason. Got the keep the fuds happy posture and not get anything pro gun again.

I understand this was stripped from the bill. Can someone explain why the Republicans don't re introduce it as a stand alone bill. Gun rights are important when they are asking for your vote, why don't they expend some political capital and try to at least pass legislation that they say is important and that they are in favor of. Republicans control both branches of the legislature and the oval office. When the Democrats controlled all three in Minnesota (state house, state senate, and governor) they rammed everything through that they possibly could.

X1000!!

Fellas, if they did what they said they’d do while running. They wouldn’t have anything to run on after they did it.

So, they’ll say, it was shot down by the others and they really mean it this time. Just gotta vote for them… honest.

Because of the simple fact if opened back up as a stand alone bill it will require 60 yes votes to pass. They barely may have the 51 needed as a part of the reconciliation bill. There are only 53 or so Republicans, that includes the Rinos. The reconciliation style of bill requires a simple majority vs a standard bill introduced.

Bellyaching isn’t going to fix this. Get the libtards out of office, then maybe we can do some real work…

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TC1, thanks for the explanation, I didn't realize that they would need the 60 Senate votes as a stand alone bill. Not sure how the rules work to go from 60 to a simple majority. Would it be a good thing to still bring it up for a vote, just to make Senators and Representatives take a stand one way or the other? Nature of the beast I guess, it seems like they are gung ho when running for office, when it is time to vote, not so much. Even if it is defeated, I think it would be a good thing to have both parties on the record if they support it or are against it. At least (in theory) they would have to explain their vote to their constituents..

Not disagreeing with you at all, but I think time is limited now with what they are doing. After the 4th deadline they are trying to reach, I’d say go for it.

They won’t bring it up for a vote! It’s taboo to vote on something that they know won’t pass! It’s all about having a “clean” voting record with no votes on losing bills. It would be great to put them on the record, but it’s not happening!

The tax they could have used that argument. It went sideways when they added the SBR and short barrel shotguns to the legislation. That triggered the senate parliamentarian to call it out on that point. They could possibly reintroduce the no tax stamp part, but the other parts need to be in separate legislation. If anyone is waiting on the tax stamp and hoops to go away, it won't be anytime soon.

It goes from 60 to a simple majority through the reconciliation process. That's why this legislation died because of the reconciliation language. They can try again, but it won't be anytime soon.

So the nationwide concealed carry reciprocity bill would need 60 votes in the Senate? What is the status of that bill?