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Wheat rejection because of deer feces #8427222
06/27/25 07:27 PM
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Never before have I heard of this. But because of extreme lodging in wheat it has to be cut extremely low and where deer have bedded they leave excrement on the wheat and is rejected esp. for wheat for food use. Anyone ever hear of this?

Looks like the state would keep their deer penned up and out of the fields and off the roads, lol.

Many are replanting deer damage in beans. Deer are working on the corn and coon damage is getting worse yearly.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427224
06/27/25 07:32 PM
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Coon hunted down on the IL IN border years back I was shocked at the amount of damage that deer do to crops.


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427225
06/27/25 07:34 PM
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With all the Listeria outbreaks, Ag is getting tougher. In the orchards here feces of any kind needs policed and cleaned up before any harvest happens. Fruit with bird feces is placed in special bins and disposed of, and gloves changed before returning to picking. Irrigation water is sampled weekly and tested. Sweet corn fields are the same way!






Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427237
06/27/25 08:03 PM
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The link below shows some common diseases humans can pick up when coming in contact with deer feces or urine.

Bryce

https://www.google.com/search?q=Wha...9_2RCFE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427241
06/27/25 08:22 PM
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when they put up and exclusion fence in hay fields deer like to frequent , the hay will be inches to a foot higher in the exclusion fence than the rest of that field.

there are 3 places with hay around where I have hunted the last 34 years

most every deer I have opened up in the last 25 years since the hay was on 2 adjacent properties has had a belly full of alfalfa hay the other place had hay all along but is over a mile as the crow flies not all of them got over there


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427242
06/27/25 08:25 PM
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shouldn't leave out turkey damage to corn , complaint here is coon will pull down your corn and eat it , turkey will pull down your corn eat the top inch off a cob and pull down another one and repeat.


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427243
06/27/25 08:40 PM
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Ever seen what elk can do to a pivot of soybeans? About 10k. Corn too.


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427245
06/27/25 08:41 PM
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It’s a never ending battle. Deer do thousands of dollars damage to our crops every growing season. We have crop damage permits to control them, it helps but just creates a nocturnal problem. Counted 59 deer a few weeks ago on our home farm over about 250 acres of corn and beans. Yes the exclusion fence really shows the damage they do, in other words, what your crop could have been.

It’s not going to get better, not many folks eat a lot of venison ( I know the trapperman group does- but a lot of folks just chase horns ). I enjoy hunting bucks too, but I’ll do my share and wack plenty of slick heads too.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427251
06/27/25 08:49 PM
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Sounds like the wheat buyers have found an excuse to pay less for wheat.

There isn't a wheat field on this continent that dont have deer in it at times.

Farmers are gonna have to keep that combine head up outta the dirt.


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: JoMiBru] #8427254
06/27/25 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoMiBru
It’s a never ending battle. Deer do thousands of dollars damage to our crops every growing season. We have crop damage permits to control them, it helps but just creates a nocturnal problem. Counted 59 deer a few weeks ago on our home farm over about 250 acres of corn and beans. Yes the exclusion fence really shows the damage they do, in other words, what your crop could have been.

It’s not going to get better, not many folks eat a lot of venison ( I know the trapperman group does- but a lot of folks just chase horns ). I enjoy hunting bucks too, but I’ll do my share and wack plenty of slick heads too.


There's so many hunters here that if someone is having crop damage it's because they won't allow hunting, much of the state is a one deer limit.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8427271
06/27/25 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Sounds like the wheat buyers have found an excuse to pay less for wheat.

There isn't a wheat field on this continent that dont have deer in it at times.

Farmers are gonna have to keep that combine head up outta the dirt.


Its not a matter of paying less, they simply won't buy it. The farmer may in fact get less due to transportation to a source that needs feed. The wheat is lodged as bad as I've seen it and its laying flat and maybe a foot deep and the deer crap on it, the only way to get it is to get down low. Rest assured they won't run a bit lower than they have to. The crap ain't on the dirt, its on top of the wheat. After they eat alot of green beans and corn its pretty runny too! Its not the deers fault the wheat is down, but its the deers fault there is deer crap in it. The deer have been having little ones a few weeks and the does are still herded up. Our county Farm Bureau had a $25 bounty on does last season for members only and taken legally but haven't made a dent in the population.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427280
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some farmers around here make as much money leasing hunting rights as they do farming they can take a little hit on their yeilds

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427288
06/27/25 10:26 PM
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Ever see what Jose and hose B can do to a strawberry patch ?


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427300
06/27/25 11:21 PM
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This is not about crop damage. This is a case where wheat grain heads due to lodging are laying on the ground and absorbing soil based bacteria, micro- organisms etc. Thus it will be determned to be used as feed grade wheat, not unlike when funguses and bacteria and other organisms like DON etc. cause the wheat to be degraded to feed usage. We have had that issue up here some seasons due to our heavy yields and our cooler wetter heavy clay soils. Yes it does lower value quite a bit, and causes real storage issues for grain handlers when they have to separate the feed grade grain from the food grain.

Bryce

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427327
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I freaking hate deer. They make growing stuff a major pain.

In Oregon there was a death and some seriously ill folks a few years back from deer being in a strawberry patch. E coil.


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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427369
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Used to be able to salvage dropped apples for cider, that stopped...all farmers here have fence on the vegetable fields now, most places have nuisance permits...nuisance guys just let them lay where they drop, not supposed to shoot bucks but the farmers want them ALL gone.

So here's a question....Farmers want the deer dead, if they're having that much damage and loss of income, why won't they pay per deer to someone that can rack them up? Lot of the nuisance guys here play at it to get hunting permission later on, they're not that effective, but put a decent bounty on them and watch the numbers climb....but that means the farmer has to pay up....I get that farmers want it done for free, but if the damage is that severe there has to be a point when it's worthwhile.

When the state or town contracts out to professional killers, they pay huge money, and that only slows the deer down short term....dropping deer numbers has to be an ongoing cull, and take 60 % per year to START seeing a difference....

I'm not anti farmer, but I have no recourse when schools of Dogfish devastate the crabs either....and it affects my bottom line...

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427378
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I guess what goes around comes around. Here is an article from 2011 so it ain't new.

https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/avoiding_contamination_of_your_wheat_grain

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427382
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I find the two sides of this forum amusing.

On one hand when its deer season we all oooh and ahhh over a set of antlers. That mindset of trophy hunting results in poor management of the deer herd. Policies that have been proposed that might limit the deer herd are fought against. Earn a buck for one.

Then on threads like this we all groan and moan about the damage that deer do to crops. Just one of the damages that they do, look into forest products, auto ins. rates and environmental damage deer cause.

The solution is simple, there is too many deer. Optimual herd size in my area is approx 6-8 dee/sq mile, yet our herd size is around 25/sq mile. I've seen other areas out east where its in the 50/sq mile. That's 4-5 times larger than it should be. If we as so called conservation/sportsmen advocates really cared about the deer herd, the woods and feilds along with the other critters that live there we'd demand measures to greatly reduce the herd.

But no, we think short term and of our our individual selves. We want more deer, more bigger antlers. Anyone who really cares about the herd would be shooting does, as many and as often as possible and letting the bucks walk.

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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: gcs] #8427390
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Originally Posted by gcs
Used to be able to salvage dropped apples for cider, that stopped...all farmers here have fence on the vegetable fields now, most places have nuisance permits...nuisance guys just let them lay where they drop, not supposed to shoot bucks but the farmers want them ALL gone.

So here's a question....Farmers want the deer dead, if they're having that much damage and loss of income, why won't they pay per deer to someone that can rack them up? Lot of the nuisance guys here play at it to get hunting permission later on, they're not that effective, but put a decent bounty on them and watch the numbers climb....but that means the farmer has to pay up....I get that farmers want it done for free, but if the damage is that severe there has to be a point when it's worthwhile.

When the state or town contracts out to professional killers, they pay huge money, and that only slows the deer down short term....dropping deer numbers has to be an ongoing cull, and take 60 % per year to START seeing a difference....

I'm not anti farmer, but I have no recourse when schools of Dogfish devastate the crabs either....and it affects my bottom line...


In your first bit it sounds like the farmers are doing something about the deer, fencing and nuisance permits.

In your second bit you ask why farmers won't pay to have have someone "rack them up". But if they have permits then either they or someone is shooting them.

Trouble is that if I shoot every deer on my 40 acre farm they all will be replaced tomorrow from the surrounding areas where they aren't shot.

Deer reproduce like rabbits. Wipe out 90% and in a couple of years we'll be right back to where we are now.

We need to hit them hard state wide for a couple of years till the herd is a fraction of what it is now then we have to keep the harvest up from there on to keep them at a lower level. It might seem counterproductive but the end result will be healthier deer and larger deer, bigger antlers for the trophy hunters only if the herd is brought into a much lower level.

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not me if it's brown . it's down

ok I let the ones that would be like filleting a minnow go and grown now , getting soft with age , but soon as they spots are clearly off a season freezer land


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