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MB 650 dead spot fix #8427259 06/27/25 09:11 PM 06/27/25 09:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho M marty weatherup OP trapper
marty weatherup OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho	I became acquainted with Monte Poole from Kansas. He builds some great trap accessories including a pan that fixes the dead spot in an MB 650. Here’s a shot of one of mine with the new pan. And the old and new pans side by side. They take a small bit of fitting but nothing difficult. I can share his contact info in a PM. Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427291 06/27/25 10:36 PM 06/27/25 10:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio	How far off away from the edge of the pan is the bolt? Can't be more than a 1/4"? http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427314 06/27/25 11:46 PM 06/27/25 11:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho M marty weatherup OP trapper
marty weatherup OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho	Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427364 06/28/25 07:00 AM 06/28/25 07:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio	Not quite the measurement I meant. Measuring parallel to the pan how far away is the center of the bolt. Course from the picture there, it doesn't look like there's a gap so there's still a dead spot because the pan bolt is still under the pan. The pan bolt has to not be under the pan to completely eliminate the dead spot. http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427426 06/28/25 09:47 AM 06/28/25 09:47 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 east central WI K k snow trapper
k snow trapper K Joined: Oct 2009 east central WI	I could see the angle of the bolt supports helping slightly with the dead spot. If the foot presses on the back edge of the pan, it MAY be able to pivot the pan forward easier. Would be curious to see some testing with a pressure tool on thr pan in avrious spots in and around the dead zone on both designs.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427469 06/28/25 12:10 PM 06/28/25 12:10 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho M marty weatherup OP trapper
marty weatherup OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho	I’m busy this morning but when I get home this afternoon I’ll set the new pan to 3 pounds in the center and an old pan to 3 pounds in the center. Then I’ll check front and back on both. I’ll dig out a MJ600 and compare pans but at a glance the new one looks pretty close to the MJ. Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427700 06/28/25 09:46 PM 06/28/25 09:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho M marty weatherup OP trapper
marty weatherup OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho	So I did my little test with a Sullivan trap pan gauge. I set the modified MB650 at 3 pounds in the center of the pan. The outside edge tripped at about 2.25 pounds, the center at 3 pounds and the back edge almost bottomed out the gauge at what would be 4.5 pounds. I checked my only MJ600 the same way. It has a Mikes type trigger. Center of the pan broke at 2.5 pounds, the front edge at 2 pounds and the back of the pan just like the modified 650, it almost bottomed out the gauge so 4.5 pounds. Testing an unmodified 650, I set it at 3 pounds center of the pan. It broke at 2 pounds on the front and I’m guessing 9-10 pounds. It may have been more. The new pan improves the MB 650 in my estimation. I don’t think with the MJ 600 or the MB 650 you’ll ever eliminate the difference in what it takes to fire trap between the front and back of the pan. However the dead spot common to the MB 650/750 can be improved with Monte’s pan. Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427728 06/28/25 10:34 PM 06/28/25 10:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 South Dakota T TravC "MCnasty"
TravC "MCnasty" T Joined: Mar 2007 South Dakota	Mj600 got it right the first time There i said it....

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: TravC] #8427750 06/28/25 11:44 PM 06/28/25 11:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho M marty weatherup OP trapper
marty weatherup OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho	Originally Posted by TravC Mj600 got it right the first time That’s for certain. I don’t know why they didn’t use the same set up on the MB650 and 750 from the start. Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427867 06/29/25 08:29 AM 06/29/25 08:29 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 east central WI K k snow trapper
k snow trapper K Joined: Oct 2009 east central WI	Originally Posted by marty weatherup So I did my little test with a Sullivan trap pan gauge. I set the modified MB650 at 3 pounds in the center of the pan. The outside edge tripped at about 2.25 pounds, the center at 3 pounds and the back edge almost bottomed out the gauge at what would be 4.5 pounds. I checked my only MJ600 the same way. It has a Mikes type trigger. Center of the pan broke at 2.5 pounds, the front edge at 2 pounds and the back of the pan just like the modified 650, it almost bottomed out the gauge so 4.5 pounds. Testing an unmodified 650, I set it at 3 pounds center of the pan. It broke at 2 pounds on the front and I’m guessing 9-10 pounds. It may have been more. The new pan improves the MB 650 in my estimation. I don’t think with the MJ 600 or the MB 650 you’ll ever eliminate the difference in what it takes to fire trap between the front and back of the pan. However the dead spot common to the MB 650/750 can be improved with Monte’s pan. Thank you for the testing. Sounds like an improvement for sure.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427891 06/29/25 09:16 AM 06/29/25 09:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio SNIPERBBB trapper
SNIPERBBB trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Rodney,Ohio	Well you really can't fix the dead spot on the 650s. This new pan roll definitely soften it. To completely fix it you'd have to basically make a new trap. Dead spot is always going to be directly over the pivot point of the pan closest thing to not having a dead spot are the dog less Montgomery systembsnd the Harris center-fire traps http://www.sniperstrappingplace.com/tmansearch.php

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8427983 06/29/25 01:54 PM 06/29/25 01:54 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Illinois M MChewk trapper
MChewk trapper M Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Illinois	Good info on these fine traps. Thanks Marty!

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8427986 06/29/25 02:02 PM 06/29/25 02:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 South Dakota T TravC "MCnasty"
TravC "MCnasty" T Joined: Mar 2007 South Dakota	Or a mj600 There i said it....

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8428114 06/29/25 06:59 PM 06/29/25 06:59 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 GA C canebrake trapper
canebrake trapper C Joined: Mar 2015 GA	I never worried about that dead spot when I used them. I just set them and caught a lot of animals with them.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: canebrake] #8428120 06/29/25 07:13 PM 06/29/25 07:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI. Seldom trapper
Seldom trapper Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI.	Originally Posted by canebrake I never worried about that dead spot when I used them. I just set them and caught a lot of animals with them. Yup, Canebrake, that is absolutely correct,we all have and do yet today BUT there are always some of us who want to know WHY something is the way it is because it doesn't sit quite right for us the way it is so we question ourselves can we make it better to our mind with some head & handiwork. I personally applaud the open mindeness of the "thinkers", "tweekers" & "inventors" within the trapping community! Last edited by Seldom; 06/29/25 07:40 PM. "A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: Seldom] #8428125 06/29/25 07:26 PM 06/29/25 07:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 GA C canebrake trapper
canebrake trapper C Joined: Mar 2015 GA	Originally Posted by Seldom Originally Posted by canebrake I never worried about that dead spot when I used them. I just set them and caught a lot of animals with them. Yup, Canebrake, that is absolutely correct,we all have and do yet today BUT there are always some of us who want to know WHY something is the way it is because it doesn't sit quite right for us the way it is so we question ourselves can we make it better to our mind with some head & handiwork. I personally applaud the open mindeness of the "thinkers" & "tweekers" within the trapping community! Nothing wrong with that.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8428750 06/30/25 10:18 PM 06/30/25 10:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 SE Minnesota D dustytinner trapper
dustytinner trapper D Joined: Aug 2013 SE Minnesota	Did that pan work on a MB 750? Life member Minnesota Trappers Association FTA,Sportsmen's Alliance

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: dustytinner] #8428886 07/01/25 07:42 AM 07/01/25 07:42 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho M marty weatherup OP trapper
marty weatherup OP trapper M Joined: Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho	Originally Posted by dustytinner Did that pan work on a MB 750? No but Monte is working on a 750 prototype pan now. Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: TravC] #8428920 07/01/25 08:22 AM 07/01/25 08:22 AM
Joined: Jun 2022 Manitoba Shakeyjake trapper
Shakeyjake trapper Joined: Jun 2022 Manitoba	Originally Posted by TravC Mj600 got it right the first time Shhhhh, don’t let Duke hear that talk……lol! Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8431753 07/06/25 04:52 PM 07/06/25 04:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Illinois M MChewk trapper
MChewk trapper M Joined: Dec 2006 Northern Illinois	ttt

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8431932 07/06/25 11:37 PM 07/06/25 11:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 South Dakota & Wisconsin SD Coon Catcher trapper
SD Coon Catcher trapper Joined: Jul 2013 South Dakota & Wisconsin	Is it possible to purchase MJ600’s anymore? Are they currently in production?

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: marty weatherup] #8431962 07/07/25 04:40 AM 07/07/25 04:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Maine Noel trapper
Noel trapper Joined: Jan 2007 Maine	SD Coon Catcher, there was a guy on here that said the Sterlings were made out of Unobtainium lol

Re: MB 650 dead spot fix [Re: Noel] #8433038 07/09/25 10:07 AM 07/09/25 10:07 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 South Dakota T TravC "MCnasty"
TravC "MCnasty" T Joined: Mar 2007 South Dakota	Originally Posted by Noel SD Coon Catcher, there was a guy on here that said the Sterlings were made out of Unobtainium lol Yes you can get them There i said it....

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