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|  MB 650 dead spot fix
 #8427259 06/27/25 09:11 PM
06/27/25 09:11 PM
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| Joined:  Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho
marty weatherup
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 Craigmont, Idaho
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I became acquainted with Monte Poole from Kansas. He builds some great trap accessories including a pan that fixes the dead spot in an MB 650. Here’s a shot of one of mine with the new pan.  ![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Fur/i-tVSPrGF/0/Lj69HwWckbrPdTmZzKPsScdmBhMjPxjHcTXGtPK9L/L/IMG_1829-L.jpg) And the old and new pans side by side.  ![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Fur/i-Lcx826n/0/MfWKnW8QzK5MwjDpcs58LTfkKwS2VQ6BGRVm8zPvz/L/IMG_1830-L.jpg) They take a small bit of fitting but nothing difficult. I can share his contact info in a PM. 
 Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: marty weatherup]
 #8427469 06/28/25 12:10 PM
06/28/25 12:10 PM
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| Joined:  Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho
marty weatherup
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 Craigmont, Idaho
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I’m busy this morning but when I get home this afternoon I’ll set the new pan to 3 pounds in the center and an old pan to 3 pounds in the center. Then I’ll check front and back on both. 
 I’ll dig out a MJ600 and compare pans but at a glance the new one looks pretty close to the MJ.
 
 Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: marty weatherup]
 #8427700 06/28/25 09:46 PM
06/28/25 09:46 PM
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| Joined:  Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho
marty weatherup
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 Craigmont, Idaho
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So I did my little test with a Sullivan trap pan gauge. I set the modified MB650 at 3 pounds in the center of the pan. The outside edge tripped at about 2.25 pounds, the center at 3 pounds and the back edge almost bottomed out the gauge at what would be 4.5 pounds. I checked my only MJ600 the same way. It has a Mikes type trigger. Center of the pan broke at 2.5 pounds, the front edge at 2 pounds and the back of the pan  just like the modified 650, it almost bottomed out the gauge so 4.5 pounds. 
 Testing an unmodified 650, I set it at 3 pounds center of the pan. It broke at 2 pounds on the front and I’m guessing 9-10 pounds. It may have been more.
 
 The new pan improves the MB 650 in my estimation. I don’t think with the MJ 600 or the MB 650 you’ll ever eliminate the difference in what it takes to fire trap between the front and back of the pan. However the dead spot common to the MB 650/750 can be improved with Monte’s pan.
 
 Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: TravC]
 #8427750 06/28/25 11:44 PM
06/28/25 11:44 PM
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| Joined:  Aug 2011 Craigmont, Idaho
marty weatherup
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 Craigmont, Idaho
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Mj600 got it right the first time That’s for certain. I don’t know why they didn’t use the same set up on the MB650 and 750 from the start. 
 Trail cameras and fresh snow have broke a lot of trapper’s hearts.
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: marty weatherup]
 #8427867 06/29/25 08:29 AM
06/29/25 08:29 AM
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| Joined:  Oct 2009 east central WI
k snow
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 east central WI
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So I did my little test with a Sullivan trap pan gauge. I set the modified MB650 at 3 pounds in the center of the pan. The outside edge tripped at about 2.25 pounds, the center at 3 pounds and the back edge almost bottomed out the gauge at what would be 4.5 pounds. I checked my only MJ600 the same way. It has a Mikes type trigger. Center of the pan broke at 2.5 pounds, the front edge at 2 pounds and the back of the pan  just like the modified 650, it almost bottomed out the gauge so 4.5 pounds. 
 Testing an unmodified 650, I set it at 3 pounds center of the pan. It broke at 2 pounds on the front and I’m guessing 9-10 pounds. It may have been more.
 
 The new pan improves the MB 650 in my estimation. I don’t think with the MJ 600 or the MB 650 you’ll ever eliminate the difference in what it takes to fire trap between the front and back of the pan. However the dead spot common to the MB 650/750 can be improved with Monte’s pan.
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: canebrake]
 #8428120 06/29/25 07:13 PM
06/29/25 07:13 PM
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Seldom
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 Midland, MI.
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I never worried about that dead spot when I used them. I just set them and caught a lot of animals with them.Yup, Canebrake, that is absolutely correct,we all have and do yet today BUT there are always some of us who want to know WHY something is the way it is because it doesn't sit quite right for us the way it is so we question ourselves can we make it better to our mind with some head & handiwork.  I personally applaud the open mindeness of the "thinkers", "tweekers" & "inventors" within the trapping community!
Last edited by Seldom; 06/29/25 07:40 PM.
 
 "A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!"
 Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: Seldom]
 #8428125 06/29/25 07:26 PM
06/29/25 07:26 PM
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canebrake
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 GA
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I never worried about that dead spot when I used them. I just set them and caught a lot of animals with them.Yup, Canebrake, that is absolutely correct,we all have and do yet today BUT there are always some of us who want to know WHY something is the way it is because it doesn't sit quite right for us the way it is so we question ourselves can we make it better to our mind with some head & handiwork.  I personally applaud the open mindeness of the "thinkers" & "tweekers" within the trapping community!Nothing wrong with that. |  |  |  
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|  Re: MB 650 dead spot fix
[Re: TravC]
 #8428920 07/01/25 08:22 AM
07/01/25 08:22 AM
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Shakeyjake
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 Manitoba
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Mj600 got it right the first time Shhhhh, don’t let Duke hear that talk……lol! 
 Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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