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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8427450
06/28/25 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
not me if it's brown . it's down

ok I let the ones that would be like filleting a minnow go and grown now , getting soft with age , but soon as they spots are clearly off a season freezer land


We only get 1 or 2 tags a year so I try and shoot bugger bodied deer. I wish we had deer numbers like some talk about in this thread, it'd save me having to kill a beef every year

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8427472
06/28/25 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
not me if it's brown . it's down

ok I let the ones that would be like filleting a minnow go and grown now , getting soft with age , but soon as they spots are clearly off a season freezer land


We only get 1 or 2 tags a year so I try and shoot bugger bodied deer. I wish we had deer numbers like some talk about in this thread, it'd save me having to kill a beef every year


we had 28 tags this last season in camp we don't even try and fill them all just the freezer


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427483
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Dirt, Not every farmer here grows vegetables, but they all complain about deer, read what I said again, you're basically saying the same thing..nuisance permits are useless unless they're filled...guys tell farmers "I got 3 last night" when they didn't even go....

Folks that have beaver problems pay for removal to trappers, I don't see how a problem deer herd should be treated any different.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427491
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I have had wheat rejected because of goose feces, allowed in unlimited hunting and took care of it. Any flock that comes in now gets run off quick.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: gcs] #8427555
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Originally Posted by gcs
Dirt, Not every farmer here grows vegetables, but they all complain about deer, read what I said again, you're basically saying the same thing..nuisance permits are useless unless they're filled...guys tell farmers "I got 3 last night" when they didn't even go....

Folks that have beaver problems pay for removal to trappers, I don't see how a problem deer herd should be treated any different.


Nuisance permits are useless unless all landowners in the area have and use them. One here and one there isn't enough.

Thing is farmers aren't the only ones suffering due to the deer. Anyone who has a woodlot suffers due to poor to no regeneration of certain trees (oaks for example), anyone who drives a car suffers in higher Ins. So we all suffer. Why should just one group pay for it?

I have too many deer on my land. Hard to reduce the herd if I can't shoot them any time I see one. If I have to wait for season and then only shoot as many as allowed it makes no difference. I can't get a nuisance permit. Only Farmers that have crop damage can.
About 1/2 the land is farm around here.


No way the deer herd is going to get reduced until anyone and everyone who wants to shoot a deer any time he wants can. I'll bet if we did that there still won't be enough deer removed. I don't think there are enough hunters anymore.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Dirty D] #8427597
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
Originally Posted by gcs
Dirt, Not every farmer here grows vegetables, but they all complain about deer, read what I said again, you're basically saying the same thing..nuisance permits are useless unless they're filled...guys tell farmers "I got 3 last night" when they didn't even go....

Folks that have beaver problems pay for removal to trappers, I don't see how a problem deer herd should be treated any different.


Nuisance permits are useless unless all landowners in the area have and use them. One here and one there isn't enough.

Thing is farmers aren't the only ones suffering due to the deer. Anyone who has a woodlot suffers due to poor to no regeneration of certain trees (oaks for example), anyone who drives a car suffers in higher Ins. So we all suffer. Why should just one group pay for it?

I have too many deer on my land. Hard to reduce the herd if I can't shoot them any time I see one. If I have to wait for season and then only shoot as many as allowed it makes no difference. I can't get a nuisance permit. Only Farmers that have crop damage can.
About 1/2 the land is farm around here.


No way the deer herd is going to get reduced until anyone and everyone who wants to shoot a deer any time he wants can. I'll bet if we did that there still won't be enough deer removed. I don't think there are enough hunters anymore.


So is the problem that farmers wont let people hunt on the farm land?

This who problem seems foreign to me as it seems like there's more hunters than deer.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427614
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A year ago we had a family man lose his life do to a deer hit by the car in front of him coming through his windshield! This was as they were entering town at a 40 mile per hour limit. He was on his way to work. I kill them all! Yummy.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427634
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You all need some Amish and Mennonite clans to move in. Deer overpopulation solved

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427635
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I just sustained front end damage to my pick-up last Saturday hitting a deer. it will cost me my $1000 deductible and increased insurance rates. I say again....I hate deer!


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8427659
06/28/25 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor


So is the problem that farmers wont let people hunt on the farm land?

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I don't see it as much as the farmers not allowing hunting , the do all have a cousin or family member that is supposedly hunting it who takes 2 deer a year off hundreds of acers.
and more and more farmers are taking leases to hunters so then you might have just a couple people hunting it and waiting for big racks.



the bigger issue I see here is everyone is dividing up land into 10s and 20s and saying not in my backyard. it creates a deer sanctuary when a 400 acre parcel that used to get hunted turns in to 40 10 acre parcels and they put in good feed for them.

well that and the almost extinct deer drive. everyone sits in a tree now

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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: gcs] #8427698
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Originally Posted by gcs
So here's a question....Farmers want the deer dead, if they're having that much damage and loss of income, why won't they pay per deer to someone that can rack them up? Lot of the nuisance guys here play at it to get hunting permission later on, they're not that effective, but put a decent bounty on them and watch the numbers climb....but that means the farmer has to pay up....I get that farmers want it done for free, but if the damage is that severe there has to be a point when it's worthwhile..


That’s starting to trend here. I know of a few places where the leases and hunting are being done away with. Keep in mind that lots of areas here are at that point of deer population being substantially out of whack. And in some cases the crops are fairly high value such as produce/fruit. But I’ve even seen it happening in bigger row crop organizations that are being operated as a pure business operation. Trend had been that hunting leases generated decent income. Maybe a few deer died in process and that was win. Other cases the hunters shot very few deer and there wasn’t much crop damage mitigation but the payment maybe still offset that. Now seeing farm managers deciding the lease model isn’t viable

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427814
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Come plant your wheat here. I bet ive seen 30 deer in the past year here.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: DWC] #8427824
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Originally Posted by DWC
Come plant your wheat here. I bet ive seen 30 deer in the past year here.


Good grief, I saw 30 deer last night on the ride home from town.


-Goofy
Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8427880
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Pretty much like Greencounty posted.

Smaller chunks, not worth gun hunting except for opening day. After opening day the deer are pretty much in the non-hunting areas.
Odds are really against you. Often I see herds of deer out in the off limits areas during gun season in the middle of the day.

Lots of guys go north and hunt in groups. Don't pay to have 1/2 dozen guys in a 40 acre or smaller chunk.

Lots of deer shot in the public land if you look at it by deer/acre. Tons more private land tho, so more deer in just raw numbers shot there.
More does shot than bucks.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8427987
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Chronic wasting or blue tongue or whatever it’s called. Get you some of that and you wont have deer. Theyre few and far between anymore. Some spots around here have been mostly void of deer for years. Whatever is left get to try to survive the growing population of yotes (or so it seems at least)

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: beaverpeeler] #8427996
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I just sustained front end damage to my pick-up last Saturday hitting a deer. it will cost me my $1000 deductible and increased insurance rates. I say again....I hate deer!

Slow down & keep your hands up on the wheel. But most of all pay attention to the road, thank God you weren't hurt.

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Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: Foxpaw] #8428001
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I try n take responsibility for my own actions, anytime I've hit any critter with my vehicle it's not always the critters fault.

Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: DWC] #8428104
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Originally Posted by DWC
Come plant your wheat here. I bet ive seen 30 deer in the past year here.
This is a dream for me.


wanna be goat farmer.
Re: Wheat rejection because of deer feces [Re: nate] #8428123
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Originally Posted by nate
Farmer's are used to getting stuff for free (gov handouts) if we the government are giving substitutes we should have access to the property. If I've ever saw a happy farmer I don't recall when.


No subsides in getting a crop damage permit in WI. You just get to shoot so many deer. Anyone that get a crop damage permit has to allow hunters. 2 hunters/40 acres huntable land.
there is a current list on line that hunters can look up. Provides phone number of owner to call. Its another option for hunters.

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