I dread the DMV
it makes anger issues , been better in recent years but yeah in years past it was infuriating
I always wondered how more DMV workers didn't end up strangled with the clip on tie or beaten with the clip board , really I think it speaks to the great control of man in such infuriating circumstances.

I was re-upping the tags on one of the cars in the Family Fleet today and I noticed renewal of Drivers license by web , this is an item that was on my to-do list as I have 2 months to have it complete

I was thinking ok well they do mail it but maybe they just re-use the old picture , nope

let the web cam on the pc take it

so Hot dog they are going to let me drive for another 8 years and 2 months 34.80 24 for the license , 10 for some fee and 80 cents for a CC service charge

I would have given them 5 bucks in service charge to not have to take off work and go to the DMV

I honestly can't name a single person who enjoys going to the DMV.

Our's has moved into a very small building. Six chairs in the waiting room, everybody else stands outside, rain, snow, freezing or hot.

Our local DMV is fast easy and efficient. But I live in a rural area and drive to a small town about 10 miles away.

GCP, in my state when you re- up your driver's license you need to take an eye test. This is a real deal breaker for some elderly people.
Did you take one over the computer? If so how do they know someone isn't doing it for you or helping you?

We have an appointment system here that is pretty slick. When its time to renew your driver's license you make an appointment and go get it done. No waiting in line. Car tags and such you can do my mail.

Our NY dmv, was pretty good, finally, up to covid...went downhill from there, now you have to make an appointment, they do let a small number of walk ins a day, but those are taken up as they open....You can do most things online now though....Years ago a trip to DMV was worse than going to the dentist!

Department of Public Safety does DL in Texas. Not too bad but have to have an appointment when you do have to go in for renewal that requires eye test or updated picture. Not sure how often that is but you get a couple of renewals by mail/online before you have to go in

County handles the registrations and title stuff
That is where you can run into the ones you want to choke

our local-ish DMV is open Tuesdays and Thursdays 7-5 but you need to be there by 4 if you have much hope of getting it done.
about a 30 minute drive.
small but generally the line isn't out the door , it is a smaller rural county

The next closest is open all week and is about 40-45 minute drive and the line generally isn't that bad

the really infuriating one was when I had to go in Madison years go very long lines , you got a letter and number based on what you told the person at the door you needed , if they got it wrong you got to wait around another cycle

about a 100 people in a room waiting for their 5 minutes at a counter , several counters running some were like form not right end of line , but occasionally you would get the guy who was like , the form isn't right , check this box , name a 5th time here and ok now it is good.

check the box that your eyes have not changed

you could be cheating but heck during covid they gave kids drivers license with no test for 2 years

it is how they can provide IDs and keep their system of documentation going , while spending the least output for the most tax revenue.

In Ontario, those over 80 have to take a test every 2 years, this is a vision test and a comprehension test, They ask you to draw a clock face, number it and put hands on it . At ten minutes ,after eleven. . Apparently many can't figure it, might have something to do with, so many digital watches, Older seniors may have to take actual drivers tests. I was in and out in a few minutes. old 243

the analog clock as much as we are used to it , is one of the cognitive indicators

as my wife checks out more and more very day now having moved into in home hospice care about 2 weeks ago, it was one of the earlier things that became very apparent , our living room has a basic 1-12 numbered clock normal hands has been there 20 years , she has read it every day for those years
last week she started getting it wrong quite a bit , the next thing was not remembering what day it was even after being told a few times.
this is followed by the wrong words for things , moments where you think she might be back , then more to the confusion side again.
those movements of a little clarity and speech that makes sense less and less.


in most places they will not rent you a car after 80 , my parents have been taking trips as much as they can because they want to see the places the want to see before 80 , they have run into a few couples still in good health while traveling but no rental cars after 80 so they have to hire a driver which makes it cost much more.

Everything is done thru the mail here. Just renewed my license and vehicle tags. Fill out a form put in a check and 6 weeks later they come in the mail.