Re: Cain and Abel
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Where does Jesus say that Paul would prophesize the gospel of the kingdom to gentiles?
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Chancey, Matthew 21:33-43. Emphasizing vs 43. I'm out for the night, look forward to continuing later. Later!.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Jesus said it in the story about the widow whose husband died and she married his brother he also died and she remarried I believe it was another brother. Jesus was asked when she died whose wife would she be he said no ones because they would be like the angels in heaven neither male nor female. Thanks rex I couldn't remember that pasage.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Where does Jesus say that Paul would prophesize the gospel of the kingdom to gentiles? Hear is another example, Revelation 1-4 . John receives Revelation from Jesus to seven churches warning them of coming distruction, judgement, and redemption. Who was the good and faithful servant that was responsible for planting most of those 7 churches? You shall know them by there fruits.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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It's weird how people base so much on one verse about the sons of God and daughters of men, when there are perfectly logical explanations for it, that aren't about demons.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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God " himself " is also neither male nor female, we just use the male term for God because it's the predominant term used in scripture.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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I don't see it Giant Sage in the verses in Matthew or in Revelation you mentioned I see no mention of Paul in any of those verses. Perhaps there is something there that the Holy Spirit has revealed to you that I don't see. I certainly believe that the Spirit will reveal things to individuals that no one else sees.
PASkinnner. It is exactly what the Bible says. Many preachers have tried to dance around this topic and try to imply something it does not say. Genesis 6 is very clear as to what happened. Both Jude and Peter confirm it, and it is confirmed by the Book of Enoch and Jasher. It is important because the way one interprets Genesis 6 will set their interpretation of all other parts of the scripture.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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I don't see it Giant Sage in the verses in Matthew or in Revelation you mentioned I see no mention of Paul in any of those verses. Perhaps there is something there that the Holy Spirit has revealed to you that I don't see. I certainly believe that the Spirit will reveal things to individuals that no one else sees.
PASkinnner. It is exactly what the Bible says. Many preachers have tried to dance around this topic and try to imply something it does not say. Genesis 6 is very clear as to what happened. Both Jude and Peter confirm it, and it is confirmed by the Book of Enoch and Jasher. It is important because the way one interprets Genesis 6 will set their interpretation of all other parts of the scripture. In the old testament, there's hundreds of prophecies leading to Jesus. Not one mentions the name of Jesus. Jesus told the Apostles not to go to the Gentiles. But it was prophesied that they would be grafted in for the completed work of Christ. The finished work. The fulness of the Gentiles.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Where does Jude or Peter talk about demons breeding with humans? I only see verses referring to the angels that fell with Lucifer.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Im not implying demons. Im referring to fallen angels. Demons and angels are separate and distinct identities. The way I read it, is that Peter and Jude did not have to go into detail about it because they interpreted Genesis 6 with the Angelic view. By mentioning it most people at that time understood what they were saying.
Im at work and it’s too difficult to type on my phone. I’ll check in this evening when I get home.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Im not implying demons. Im referring to fallen angels. Demons and angels are separate and distinct identities. The way I read it, is that Peter and Jude did not have to go into detail about it because they interpreted Genesis 6 with the Angelic view. By mentioning it most people at that time understood what they were saying.
Im at work and it’s too difficult to type on my phone. I’ll check in this evening when I get home. Fallen angels are demons. From Revelations 12: Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. The best explanation of the Flood judgment is the co-mingling of the two lines—the godly line of Seth with the ungodly line of Cain—and the resulting downward spiral into wickedness that always characterizes being “unequally yoked” (2 Cor. 6:14)
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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I think Jude is very explicit when he mentions the fallen angels and then compares them in the next verse to the depravity of Sodom and Gomorrah. He is linking the two situations regarding sexual immorality and going after strange flesh together.
Go back to Genesis 19 and read it in that context. The homosexuals in that city were very clear on what they wanted to do to the two male angels that were at Lot's house. They were not interested in even Lot's virgin daughter's they wanted to rape the male angels that were inside Lot's house. I believe this gives even more credibility to the Angelic View in Genesis rather than the Sethite View.
Either way, the interpretation of Genesis is fundamental in how we dictate our reading of scripture. The two doctrines are so far a part from one another that one of us or both of us is wrong, but we both can't be correct.
You and I will disagree on scripture because of our interpretation. Really does not matter though, we agree wholeheartedly on the most important thing. Peace be with you Skinner, as I very much appreciate and respect your input on this forum.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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I think Jude is very explicit when he mentions the fallen angels and then compares them in the next verse to the depravity of Sodom and Gomorrah. He is linking the two situations regarding sexual immorality and going after strange flesh together.
Go back to Genesis 19 and read it in that context. The homosexuals in that city were very clear on what they wanted to do to the two male angels that were at Lot's house. They were not interested in even Lot's virgin daughter's they wanted to rape the male angels that were inside Lot's house. I believe this gives even more credibility to the Angelic View in Genesis rather than the Sethite View.
Either way, the interpretation of Genesis is fundamental in how we dictate our reading of scripture. The two doctrines are so far a part from one another that one of us or both of us is wrong, but we both can't be correct.
You and I will disagree on scripture because of our interpretation. Really does not matter though, we agree wholeheartedly on the most important thing. Peace be with you Skinner, as I very much appreciate and respect your input on this forum. Dang…. They were serious about pride month back then …shoot even Leftlane would’ve felt uncomfortable in that town
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Re: Cain and Abel
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That is really really funny! You’re awesome Savell!
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Re: Cain and Abel
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I may be dense, but I'm still not sure how what Jude says relates to demons marrying human women. Let's say you are right. I'm willing to say I don't really know, but the angels with Lot were the good ones. What I see in all these accounts is God's mercy, but also that it has limits. The problem with the whole Cain linage bit is the way people have perverted it to endorse slavery and prejudice, because they just applied it to whatever people group they didn't like. It also shows me that there is hope for the world, because we aren't overall as evil as those before the flood. My view of end times certainly influences how I see the world events today. Can't be a doom and gloomer. I believe God really does win and most of the world population eventually will be Christian.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Jesus said it in the story about the widow whose husband died and she married his brother he also died and she remarried I believe it was another brother. Jesus was asked when she died whose wife would she be he said no ones because they would be like the angels in heaven neither male nor female. Thanks rex I couldn't remember that pasage. The Sadducees who didn't believe in the resurrection asked Jesus about this. Matt 22: 23-31.
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Re: Cain and Abel
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Where does Jesus say that Paul would prophesize the gospel of the kingdom to gentiles? Hear is another example, Revelation 1-4 . John receives Revelation from Jesus to seven churches warning them of coming distruction, judgement, and redemption. Who was the good and faithful servant that was responsible for planting most of those 7 churches? You shall know them by there fruits. I don't know where Jesus said Paul would prophesize the gospel to the gentiles, but Paul did. Eph 2:11-22, Joel 2:28-32, John 10:16. There are many things written about this elsewhere in the bible as well.
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