Since the Cane and Abel thread sort of shifted gears and was leaning towards who the sons of God in Genesis are I just thought I'd start a new post on this subject.
Normally I wait for responses before I coment. But since there has already been a dialect on this I'll start.
There seems to be two dominant views of who the son's of God are.
One is that they are of the lineage of Seth.( the beginning of men to call upon the name of the Lord. Gen4:26 )
And that the daughters of men are of the lineage of Cain. ( I have gotten a man from the Lord. Gen4:1).
The 2nd popular view is that the sons of God are fallen angels. Some of the support for this is from the sons of God mentioned in the book of Job. The Bible does not tell specifically who they are in either case.
There is another view and this in the one that I lean toward. This is the spiritual view. Meaning. The sons of God being those that walk with God. Example ( Gen6:8 There are the generation's of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generation's, and Noah walked with God.) And the daughters of Men. ( of Godless Men) Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
My understanding is that the Giants in Genesis are the result of the yolking of God fearing Men of faith with a spouse that han been raised in idolatry. This of course being the same with the reverse of genders. Meaning the wife being God fearing and the husband being a non believer. Look at our world leaders and spiritual leaders of today's.
The more popular and the more powerful and ( Giant they become. )( for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12 ) sorry about the long intro. Carry-on.

Maybe I should have asked, and ideas, or different understanding.

Evening Giant Sage,

If folks read the other post, then they know my thoughts on the topic. The Angelic View is where I stand.

Food for thought....King Og, Goliath, Numbers 13:32-33.

Evening to you Chancey,
Good food, Genesis 6:4 derives from the same root word as mighty men In 2 Sam 23:8.
Speaking of men who followed and defended king David. Warriors strong men of great stature.
Strongs concordance. Hebrew section # 1368

The Hebrew word for Sons of God is Bene Elohim. In the OT, this always refers to angels. Direct creations of Yahweh. And yes, there is a very distinct difference between fallen angels and demons.

I take the Bible very literally. Yes, I know that there is allegory and also symbology, but sometimes it just says what it says.

Biologically, often when two different species cross, they produce hybrids of large size. Doesn't happen often in nature as God has made a mechanism to help prevent it. It does happen though when humans gets involved. Thus we get tigons, ligers, mammoth mules, etc. If the Sethite view is correct, then why did God kill all the Sethites along with the Cainites in the flood? Why did he destroy ALL life on earth, when His entire plan was to save all of us through His son Christ Jesus?

The Bible says that Noe was perfect in his generations. In Hebrew, generations can be interpreted as his genetics (the blood) were good; i. e. Noah in particular had not been corrupted by the mischief the fallen angels had undertaken. God had a bloodline and genetic issue to deal with; one that could potentially corrupt the seedline of Christ. It is all about the BLOOD. The whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation is about the the BLOOD.

I've studied this topic for more than 10 years now. Have numerous books over it, and every Bible I could get but the Russian Bible. Upsets me that I cannot buy a Russian Bible. I will go to my grave believing that when the Bible says Giants, it means literal giants.

I saw a Sons of Silence biker on the interstate the other day. I know, not the same thing....

Chancey,
I respect all the study you have done. Are Bene sons? and Elohim God?

Also do you believe that Noah's family had not been corrupted by the Bene Elohim?

Morning Sir, and happy 4th to all!

Here’s some of my notes from Chuck Missler’s deep dove into Gen 6.
We are hosting 4th at the house, so don’t have much time, but will try to answer your questions and then expound on it later.

1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2] That the Sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Bene HaElohim = angels. OT (Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7); NT (Lk 20:36); Book of Enoch; and, Septuagint (LXX).

“...daughters of men”: Benoth Adam = “Daughters of Adam.” Daughters of Adam, not just Cain. (Adam had daughters (Gen 5:4): that’s where Cain probably got his wife.

“took...of all they chose”: doesn’t sound like the girls had much choice in the matter.

As far as Noah. I think his blood had not been corrupted. Only speculation, but I do think Namaah was Noah’s wife, the corruption possibly passed from her to Ham, the father of Canaan and Nimrod and linked to the Raphaim.

We know this cause the Bible says that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days before the flood…..and also after that.

I’m with Chancey in the direction I lean on the subject

Please show us from scripture the difference between fallen angels and demons. Because everything I've seen tells me that the demons were once God's angels.

I don’t know why they have to be separate. Anyone who works in deliverance ministries will attest to the fact that there is a hierarchy of the demonic. My thoughts are that Jude 1:6 would suggest that the original fallen angels were locked away. Who would that leave to run the demonic realm? I would think, provided there wasn’t a second incursion of fallen angels after the flood, that the only undead eternal souls left to roam this world would have been the ones that were half human and half spiritual being. Whether the initial ones were or weren’t locked away, they could still be the high ranking members and the nephilim bloodlines that came after could be lower in the ranks

That's a lot of supposing, based on no real evidence. But if you are going to suppose, doesn't it make more sense that it's the nephlim locked away and the original fallen angels still on the loose? Because Jude says it's the ones we left who are locked up, not the ones that were cast out.

I don’t know and you don’t know, but I think there was a big difference between falling angels and sons of God. A good argument could be made for both. I tend to think they were the basis for most ancient legends and they also are what was behind most ancient technology. From the pyramids to Machu Picchu s higher power was involved in my opinion. Could be wrong

Ultimately, all the theories are just theories. Nobody will know until we get to heaven. There is a lot of supposing too (I think) in the sethite view that for some reason men having children with other human women from the same bloodline create these giants of old that end up making the Israelites look like mere grasshoppers. I’m just saying what makes the most sense in my brain. I would be interested in seeing the scripture that backs up your belief too.

I follow the late Chuck Missler. I take his resources and buy them and study for my self to draw a conclusion. I think his message is sound, although I don't agree with everything he says. He is sincere in his teaching, and his underlying message is always Acts 17:11.

My personal viewpoints align with Sportsman94.

What I consider demons are what happened to the offspring of the corruption of the bloodline. The Giants, the Nephilim. These creatures were neither human or angelic; they had no souls, but could experience mortal death unlike Fallen Angels. Since they were not human either, they cannot be saved. Since they were neither Angelic or man, but a hybrid. They had no soul by God for salvation. That is why they seek embodiment. I think they are alive and well today and living within many of world leadership.

Demons are also territorial. For some reason, they always seem to seek that which they were originally from or became embodied.

Agree with you completely that this was the basis for all ancient megaliths and their technology.

I am curious what the scriptural basis for demons and fallen angels being one and the same?

Some interesting conversation.
I respect the difference of opinions that we have.
For me personally it gets me to dive into scripture even deeper on thing I normally wouldn't consider.
This is a subject that is not a salvation issue. Atliest I would hope not. But the unknown is what gets us searching the scripture and hopefully edifys us in our learning.
I can't really coment on the Angels vs demons. Exept that the fact that Angels are messengers.
Is a demand a messenger of evil. I'm inclined to think of them as an evil spirit.
The opposite of the Holy Spirit. Giving us thoughts of doubt and fear. God does not give us the spirit of fear but one-off a sound mind. We are to test the spirits.