True that, always after the fact, never before. We recently had portions of 75 through Atlanta shut down due to flood waters over the road. Five bucks says clogged drains that should've been kept clear.

The fire department did not have anything heavy enough to get to this guy so the neighbor was getting a big tractor and I was putting on a life vest to ride in the bucket. We were all laughing that as swift as the current was the best would do little if I got in trouble. The fire chief did NOT like our plan but I'll give the man credit he was not going to stop us.

Just as Darryl was getting back with the tractor the chiefs radio crackled and rescue chopper advised they were already in the air, had completed their last mission and were only 6 mins out. Yours truly may have dodged a bullet that day + got front row seats to one heck of a show.

Texas has 8 cloud seeding programs in place. They create rain but it's uncontrollable rain. Google "blue rain in texas".

You sir, have a problem.

No, he's just angry at the complacent professional leaders that didn't want their weekend to be interrupted.

Maybe more could have been done. But there seems to be a need to blame someone for everything bad that happens even weather disasters.

Sure is easy to armchair quarterback.

That post was about the people on here.

Gary you are correct. I just got off of the phone with Our Governors office. This isnt about me in any way. The NWS was pushing out the warnings as early as July 2 and all throughout July 3. They continued updating those notifications to the TDEM, however, those were not being pushed out to the County Reps and County Judges along with the County OEM directors, in ANY of these counties within those specific basins.
The other problem was that the emails i was sending out to our TDEM were never acknowledged. I had, according to my call log on my phone a 51 minute conversation with the Governors Assistant to Emergency management. Although they are in the process of recovering deceased people and checking structures, in the weeks to come the investigation will commence.

Warrior and others, the warning system in these counties comes from the OEM, down to the Local EOC's. Those within the local governments should have been, as it is their sworn duty to monitor these events and stand up the EOC's and notify the state of their assessments with and from boots on the ground. This area is populated but mostly within the cities and towns. From Memorial Day through Labor day these childrens church camps are numerous up and down these rivers within these basins. As are all of the RV parks, cabin rentals and a Lot of rafting and tubing venues. With the historical data in regards to flooding and specific weather events, it is unconscionable for each and every county who has jurisdiction over any sector of these basins to not be on straight up full blown readiness when you can certainly see what I saw developing as early as July 1. Even the meteorologists were calling for a higher state of readiness.

in time, you will eventually see that what I am calling an epic failure, will be completely validated. If you had a child or children in those camps, grandchildren and so on, I bet you would certainly be asking yourself and wanting answers as to why an all out blitz didnt occur with all available resources as early as July 3. We had National Guard, State Guard, Marines, Game Wardens, State TRoopers at and within a couple of hours that could have and should have been mobilized to saturate those areas and facilitate the evacuations of those tributary basins. If we can send darn near every State Trooper and Game warden in the state to secure our border, I guarantee you they are up to hauling butt to that area to get our most vulnerable out of harms way.

and yes, I was upset with some people on here because most of the ones commenting have no idea how our emergency management system works, or in this case doesnt work. and when I post things on here that I dang well know what in the heyull I am talking about and then those on here who have no concept or idea as to how this works here, nor of the past history of flooding within in these corridors, try to make me look like a dam fool. Shame on you. I dont call yall out on your areas of expertise and experience based knowledge.

some on here rightfully criticized the LE failure to act in the cowardice attack on the children in the Uvalde School incident. How many more children and others died in this incident when all of the evidence with the building storm system and the frontal stall out that was acting as the blocking mechanism which kept this system right over the top of that area was right in front of their faces.

Okay, if I'm understanding you right. The feds under the national weather service did all they could do. The failure to act was somewhere between state emergency management and the county officials that should have acted preemptively to get people out of the flood zones.

If so that's probably a common problem nationwide.

This act of God happened in mere minutes, Sheepdog the only way to have prevented this was mass evacuations before it started raining. I'm betting many would have ignored those warning too.
There is no blame to throw around, just pray for those affected.

Warrior, that is precisely the issue Sir. I was getting the NWS urgent updates and warnings. everyone of those state Emergency management employees, County Offices of Emergency management Directors and the County judges for each of those counties, Sir, were getting those warnings and updates. The problem was within our own Emergency management network.

I do apologize to anyones feathers that I ruffled. but I can no longer physically be boots on the ground but my dang brain is still functional and I volunteered to testify before our state legislature when these hearing begin. I also have volunteered to be a person who monitors these systems as they approach and then set in.

Yes Sir, Warrior, had those county Judges, who preside over the local EOC's or delegate them to other persons, such as a City Manager or designee, been paying attention. at the latest, by the early afternoon of July 3, the preemptive evacuations should have commenced. They could have actually began as early as noon on July 3 based on the rainfall amounts and the meteorlogical data being provided about the rotation of that system since it couldnt move or shift due to the stalled out frontal boundary.

Ostentatious

God didnt cause this Sir, he allowed it for a greater purpose that we cant wrap our brains around. This didnt JUST Happen Sir. This was developing over at least 4-5 days. Perhaps you are unable to see this as most likely you havent walked in my shoes and been through many of these events. Nor have I walked in your shoes. In this situation, I know, beyond any shadow of a doubt, what actions should have been taken, when at the earliest they should have been taken and the protocols for the activation of these measures.

Complacency will always be a human fallacy, unfortunately. Areas that get annual weather emergencies such as coastal areas with hurricanes have good systems in place yet we still get the Miami and New Orleans events.
No easy answer on this one and sadly it is often death that moves us to get better.

Warrior, I wouldnt say that this type of failure or issue is an issue nationwide. I dont believe that to be the case. Our system is so freaking huge, and it was taken from the Texas Department of Public Safety and turned over to Texas A&M. Therein, I do believe is going to be the problem. They arent public service minded, they arent out there currently searching for those missing. They have never had their feet on the battlefield. If you have never been on the battlefield, you just dont know. And, for a fact, you Sir are a combat veteran. Your experience kept others, those new troops alive. My experiences within this field are no different.

Yes Sir, you see what I am seeing. Thank you for your understanding and patience with me.

True, each situation is unique with it's own institutional failures but I stand by my supposition that most folks, civilians if you will, don't fully understand the daily dangers and act accordingly. Sadly people die because of it.