agreed

Have you considered running for office or trying to get appointed so you can fix all these problems?

Sounds like you’re doing what you can by calling them and telling them what’s what.

Hopefully it changes something so it doesn’t happen again.

I will be assigned to a volunteer group of other retired LEO's who have been voicing the very same concerns that I have. I will do whatever it takes to make sure this ever recurring malfeasance doesnt occur again. This time, it has hit some folks with big money in their heart, they lost kids too. So, I bet ya there are some serious changes in the near future. their problem now is that the rain has started again upstream. which will only exacerbate the recovery efforts and extend them.

I dont want to see this happen anywhere within our country. if you have never been sent into one of these areas, it is hard to explain what you experience.

Good on ya sir. Hopefully they listen and this tragedy won’t happen in the future. You’re doing good work.

Sheepdog,
I admire you for wanting to get back involved in solving government's problems after you've retired. But, I still don't see what it is that you hope to change that will prevent this from occurring again. Admittedly, I don't know the area, but from what Ive learned the past few days, it wasn't just a river bed that flooded. It was the entire flood plain. And there were parts of towns built in this plain, along with homes and camps.

I've went back and read your posts and all the others on this thread and the couple other related threads and haven't picked up on anything suggesting what would've made a difference with that huge amount of water rushing thru a 100 mile stretch of river in the middle of the night. Thousands of residents and visitors were involved and in the danger zone.

A better alert system along the entire stretches of the rivers in that area? Would that work? If it saves most lives, it would be worth the cost, but all will never heed the warnings. Just like folks will not heed hurricane evacuation warnings, even after the ones we've had smack us the past couple years.

Ive had every NIMs training offered and am likely more familiar with disaster plans and responses than most on here. Was right in the middle of every major Georgia disaster for 27 years. I feel your pain.

Swamp Wolf then you can understand my dilemma. your terrain is just like mine. however, that terrain, is a whole different animal. we cant think within our own areas of operation and apply that to this specific geographical area. With all due respect, and I adamantly mean that Sir. this area of Texas is probably one of the most if not the most difficult area to monitor due to the bedrock and shear canyon walls. Why oh why, did they allow these camps to be built next to the rivers, inside of the historic flood areas is beyond comprehension.

I am going to fight with everything that I have within me along with many other old farts that are retired, state, county and municipal LE folks, to guide our legislators to make the necessary changes within these death trap basins to stop any further construction of any type of home, apartments, RV parks, Church and non church related camps as well as any primitive campsites. The areas below the highest landbased structures that have never been flooded need to be the absolute basis for any future encampments. Our state has enough money in reserve to allocate to Texas Parks and Wildlife in which they can build roads and access to the river for the recreational aspect of the camps and those coming to vacation in this area. The safer we can make it the more people will come.

to the jerk that wrote ostentatious, that I am not you putrid Jackarse. what if one of these kids belonged to you!!! Would your concerns be self serving and ostentatious. No they would not. I have nothing to prove or further anything in this life; although I had to retire from LE after 33 years and numerous injuries, my brain still functions. What can you say about yourself you judgemental turd. if you cant appreciate those of us who adhere to the oath we swore, which doesnt end until we depart this life, then keep your mouth shut. There are enough folks now understanding my original intent and it has nothing to do with me. If you wish, please come on down and volunteer to search for all these dead kids and perhaps your own remarks will find their way back into your mouth. But, I am betting you dont have what it takes to come on down and do such a thing. so, just keep your judgemental words to yourself. SwampWolf has done these duties as many other LE folks on here have. swallow your pride and just be silent.

I have know Dave for a long time. He is the ultimate professional. He started sending texts on July 3rd and those texts were never opened. I understand his pain. If his text had been acknowledged and warnings sent out there might have not been near as many lives lost.
The Guadalupe River and its tributaries drains a huge area. Thousand and thousands of acres. When you have a weather event such as the Hill Country had last week it is amazing at the amount of water that comes down the tributaries into the river. From Ingram up the river there are several church camps,numerous RV parks, and private homes. There are numerous low water crossings that makes evacuations very tricky if not impossible. I think Dave is frustrated because someone dropped the ball on sounding the alarm on a major flood event. This could possibly have been prevented or minimized.
There have been a number of flood events like this in my lifetime( I am 80 yrs old). You would think we would have developed warning alert system by now that works. Please pray for those people and families that lost their children and the people in the RV parks that lost their lives .

Sheepdog asked me to post this for him

https://www.click2houston.com/news/...up-to-devastating-guadalupe-river-flood/

thank you Savell.

No problem… I can see how this gets to you partner

…. My partner is tore up over this … here’s a snippet of what he tried to do to get ahead of this situation…. And he doesn’t do this for himself… he has that protective mentality and can’t shake it

… he was up for days ahead of this deal and no one would listen

… years ago my daughter got lost in the national forest behind the house … ended up miles away and made camp … it wasn’t the county sheriff that got choppers in the air…. It was sheepdog

You missed an ef word buddy.

… not now

Don’t want you getting in trouble. Kids are still up past their bedtimes reading T-man and can’t be exposed to such things.

lol


Thanks for doing all you can sheepdog and getting the word out. Hopefully you are able to make some positive changes so this horrible situation doesn’t happen again.

Good posts. Thanks Savell and Sheepdog.

… sheepdog ask me to post this one …
https://youtube.com/shorts/VnKe6uzTNmg?si=2vmMGX9ctIY6R53I