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Re: Old Religions [Re: hippie] #8433136
07/09/25 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hippie
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Reminds me of the chow hall in basic training! We had one guy that took forever to pray AND he wanted the whole table to hold hands! Only took one blanket party to fix that.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8433148
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by KeithC
They just need there to be an void of strong religious beliefs.

So they need atheism.


They don't need Atheism, they just need an absence of strong religious beliefs, so there is a hole to fill.

Keith

Re: Old Religions [Re: KeithC] #8433152
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Keith Is correct on this I believe.
There state,- the Kim dynasty for example is there god, little g man. Pun intended.
Do as I say or the penalty is death.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: KeithC] #8433155
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Originally Posted by KeithC
They don't need Atheism, they just need an absence of strong religious beliefs, so there is a hole to fill.

Keith

Atheism is the lack of belief. Despite the weasel words, you keep reiterating that they need atheism.

Re: Old Religions [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8433156
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by KeithC
They don't need Atheism, they just need an absence of strong religious beliefs, so there is a hole to fill.

Keith

Atheism is the lack of belief. Despite the weasel words, you keep reiterating that they need atheism.


You unfortunately lack the ability to understand. I'll stop wasting my time on you.

Keith

Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8433157
07/09/25 03:33 PM
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A lack of belief does not equal a belief that there is/are no god(s).

Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8433158
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Weak atheism is defined as "the absence of belief in gods without asserting their nonexistence". Strong atheism, on the other hand, is the absolute belief that no gods exist. Then there are agnostics, who believe that it is impossible to know whether or not gods exist.


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Re: Old Religions [Re: k snow] #8433161
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Originally Posted by k snow
A lack of belief does not equal a belief that there is/are no god(s).


Correct.

Keith

Re: Old Religions [Re: k snow] #8433162
07/09/25 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by k snow
A lack of belief does not equal a belief that there is/are no god(s).

A theist is one who has a belief in god(s).

An atheist is one who lacks belief in god(s). a- is a prefix that means not or without.

Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Weak atheism is defined as "the absence of belief in gods without asserting their nonexistence". Strong atheism, on the other hand, is the absolute belief that no gods exist. Then there are agnostics, who believe that it is impossible to know whether or not gods exist.


Correct.

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Re: Old Religions [Re: KeithC] #8433163
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Originally Posted by KeithC
You unfortunately lack the ability to understand. I'll stop wasting my time on you.

Keith

Adios! Don't like to be challenged, I guess.

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Re: Old Religions [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8433171
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by KeithC
You unfortunately lack the ability to understand. I'll stop wasting my time on you.

Keith

Adios! Don't like to be challenged, I guess.


I love a good debate. There is a massive amount of evidence for that on this site. You can't unfortunately give me a good debate, because you can't grasp what I am saying. It's sad!y clear that it's just a waste of time for me to continue to attempt to help you understand.

Keith

Re: Old Religions [Re: KeithC] #8433179
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I love a good debate. There is a massive amount of evidence for that on this site. You can't unfortunately give me a good debate, because you can't grasp what I am saying. It's sad!y clear that it's just a waste of time for me to continue to attempt to help you understand.

Keith

Okay. I'll leave you with your obviously superior intellect.

Re: Old Religions [Re: Shakeyjake] #8433180
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Shakey,
I don't believe in eternal torment.
At least not in the form of burning for ever.

Me neither, I ripped out a few pages out of my bible and it's called the King Jake Version. I get religious holidays in winter to maintain my trap line.

Mark 9:44-48. Wonder what was being described?

Re: Old Religions [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8433181
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by KeithC
I love a good debate. There is a massive amount of evidence for that on this site. You can't unfortunately give me a good debate, because you can't grasp what I am saying. It's sad!y clear that it's just a waste of time for me to continue to attempt to help you understand.

Keith

Okay. I'll leave you with your obviously superior intellect.


Savell doesn't like my music either, so we do have that common ground.

Keith

Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8433183
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Whatever pretend debates occur based on word play rather than functional prose it is a fact of history that both of the co-founders of communism were staunch atheist and believed it to be a necessary part of the framework for communism to succeed. While succeeding generations have sought to make communism more tastefully acceptable to their peoples, at its core it is not empty-space but atheistic.

Re: Old Religions [Re: J Staton] #8433186
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Originally Posted by J Staton
[quote=Shakeyjake][quote=Giant Sage]Shakey,
I don't believe in eternal torment.
At least not in the form of burning for ever.
Me neither, I ripped out a few pages out of my bible and it's called the King Jake Version. I get religious holidays in winter to maintain my trap line.
Mark 9:44-48. Wonder what was being described?


What is your take on : "Everyone will be salted with fire. "?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Old Religions [Re: KeithC] #8433189
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Christianity is a more useful.religion for controlling people with, than the older ones. It was adopted by the elite to control the masses. The whole render unto Caeser and you will receive a great afterlife, for suffering in this life, makes for a docile population.

Keith

I guess that's why christianity is flourishing in countries like North Korea where being a Christian is punishable by death but people are still converting..... christianity has always flourished under persecution, and it gets persecuted because real Christians are more concerned with following Gods laws than whoever the current "power" is.

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Originally Posted by Knappett
Originally Posted by KeithC
Christianity is a more useful.religion for controlling people with, than the older ones. It was adopted by the elite to control the masses. The whole render unto Caeser and you will receive a great afterlife, for suffering in this life, makes for a docile population.

Keith

I guess that's why christianity is flourishing in countries like North Korea where being a Christian is punishable by death but people are still converting..... christianity has always flourished under persecution, and it gets persecuted because real Christians are more concerned with following Gods laws than whoever the current "power" is.


Only an incredibly minuscule 0.38% of North Koreans are Christian. That is most certainly not a flourishing population.

Keith

Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8433197
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I figure it both describes the Bema Seat and the White Throne Judgment.

Re: Old Religions [Re: Savell] #8433210
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"The Party cannot be neutral towards religion and does conduct anti-religious propaganda against all and every religious prejudice because it stands for science, while religious prejudices run counter to science, because all religion is something opposite to science. Cases such as recently occurred in America in which Darwinists were prosecuted in court, cannot occur here because the Party carries out a policy of the general defense of science. The Party cannot be neutral towards religious prejudices and it will continue to carry on propaganda against these prejudices because this is one of the best means of undermining the influence of the reactionary clergy who support the exploiting classes and who preach submission to these classes. The Party cannot be neutral towards the bearers of religious prejudices, towards the reactionary clergy who poison the minds of the toiling masses. Have we suppressed the reactionary clergy? Yes, we have. The unfortunate thing is that it has not been completely liquidated"..Joseph Stalin

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