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We all get to heaven...? #8435906
07/14/25 03:07 PM
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beaverpeeler Offline OP
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Unity of the faiths. Baja'i religion. The Baja'u'allah taught that God sent more than one prophet to earth. Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad, and finally the Baja'u'allah.... who says God's latest message is he don't like all his children fighting over religion. One God, more than one Messiah.

God loves all his children.... More than one path to heaven.

So there Savell!


My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435912
07/14/25 03:17 PM
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Jesus must have drawn the short stick to go though what he did compared to the others.
Also according to you and your believe he must of been a lier because he preached there was only one way to heaven.
That belief of yours is very full of holes .
If all of them were send by God as Messiahs why would God have them preach contradicting messages?


Last edited by Yes sir; 07/14/25 03:25 PM.
Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435916
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You either have to call him THE Messiah or a liar not one of many.

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435920
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Is the OP saying everyone gets to heaven or only all religions? I've talked to online people who seem to hate all religions and are just very angry. Would they even enjoy a place where God was worshiped?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435923
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If we all get to heaven there would be no need for a Messiah would there?

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: PAskinner] #8435924
07/14/25 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Is the OP saying everyone gets to heaven or only all religions? I've talked to online people who seem to hate all religions and are just very angry. Would they even enjoy a place where God was worshiped?


No. They wouldn't. LOL.


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Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435928
07/14/25 03:37 PM
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The Baja'i either didnt know what Jesus preached or are deceivers. Either way it puts a hole in their believe.

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: Yes sir] #8435937
07/14/25 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
If we all get to heaven there would be no need for a Messiah would there?

Mr. Obvious enters the chat. grin


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Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435942
07/14/25 04:03 PM
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Too say god loves every one is crazy talk as it is. Alot of religions are based off the old testament. Have any of you guys who are saying God loves everyone and everything is just rainbows and roses read the old testament?? God showed alot of his wrath, because they weren't treating his chosen people the way they needed too or they weren't following the law which he handed down. God even showed the isrealites wrath and made them suffer, they were his chosen people. Didnt have blessings until they fell back in line. I haven't read alot of different bibles but the Torah and the Koran have some of the same stories, and followings from the old testament. The Torah is based off the old testament. If God loved everyone why would we need a messiah to begin with?? Comes down to you believe what you want to believe, some will be right some are going to be wrong in the end. But if there is 1 God, 10000 ways to get to him right or wrong whats the point of a religions, or bible?? What's the point of a messiah or prophets?? If we are all going to one place!

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435944
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You can love ur kids and still punish them. He is not only a loving God but a just God and is perfect at both which is hard for us with less understanding to grasp.

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435945
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Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435947
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Can God love everyone yes, but no matter what you have to follow his commands, and do as your religion states to feel that love. Like I said I haven't read too much is to other bibles but im not sure not 1 states your free to do as you not and get to heaven the end. Pretty sure all will have a plan or pathway to achieve heaven.Mine says none will enter the kingdom of heaven unless you know his son..

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435950
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Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: Blaine County] #8435959
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Mark June, we need you.

We have the Bible and the Holy Spirit if you can't get ahold of him

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435962
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Yes sir I understand, but can you tell me God loved people like the canaanites, amorites, hivites to name a few?? God commanded for them all to be destroyed and leave none of them standing. Isrealites failed to do so
I love my kids but to kill and send them and to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) would that just be a punishment?,people would question love that way?? Is that not what God demanded from Isrealites to fo to the tribes that came against them?
Do you think God doesn't feel this way still? He allows every benefit of doubt to come to him,but some are evil to the core and he knows that there is no changing them.

It was made clear John 15:5 that God will pluck the dead branches and cast to a fire so the vine doesn't die. Can't have love for everyone, and cast to the fire, just doesn't make sense to me anyways.

I understand you have jesus to speak for you know if you know him! But you can't tell me the bible is all rainbow and roses people just like the feel good messages and think we all get to heaven, simply not true. You still have a pathway to get there, and have to follow those steps. Thankfully for us we have jesus because sacrifices for us to make would be a huge failure now days.

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435966
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If God doesn't love everyone, then the new testament has it all wrong. God so loved the world, remember? Not just one race or some people. The revelation of who God is, begins and ends with him dying in the place of the worst of us.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: Yes sir] #8435970
07/14/25 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Jesus must have drawn the short stick to go though what he did compared to the others.
Also according to you and your believe he must of been a lier because he preached there was only one way to heaven.
That belief of yours is very full of holes .
If all of them were send by God as Messiahs why would God have them preach contradicting messages?



Never said it was my belief. Baja'u'allah's belief.


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Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435976
07/14/25 04:45 PM
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Short answer no the Bible (or Christianity for that matter)is not all rainbows and roses. All but one of the the disciples died as marters for their faith. Second God sends no one to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) they chose it. We've all had multiple opportunities to make our choice. As far as God loving us all yet some being sent to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) its like the scripture u posted about the dead vines, no gardener wants to see his vines die but he has to do what is best for the living plants. Those that died were dead spiritually and chose that before they were plucked. Pm me if u want to chat in a deeper context.

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435978
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by Yes sir
Jesus must have drawn the short stick to go though what he did compared to the others.
Also according to you and your believe he must of been a lier because he preached there was only one way to heaven.
That belief of yours is very full of holes .
If all of them were send by God as Messiahs why would God have them preach contradicting messages?



Never said it was my belief. Baja'u'allah's belief.

My apologies I took it out of context I thought your middle line was a statement of your belief

Re: We all get to heaven...? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8435995
07/14/25 05:14 PM
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Yes Sir, no problem. For clarity sake I shouldn't have separated the middle line from the upper.

My mother took a dim view of anybody disrespecting the bible so I always try to remain civil. But in my own view when we die that's it. This is as good as it gets. No joyful reunion with dead relatives on the other side.


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