…. You have to at least admit … the creator has some sadistic tendencies

Life ain't easy, Brother.

We'll help if we can.

… doing just fine here … thanks for the concern lol

Fear the Lord....If that stuff bothers you, your gonna absolutely love Armageddon.

Savell, you took part in creating your kids even when you knew they would screw up a time or two through life. You might have even had to jerk down those britches and tan that hide a time or two. The Good Lord's hide tanning just last a bit longer. I reckon it comes with the job.

… lol …. You right . But if I had the power of God I would have made them have a perfect life … even that Jesse Henry lol

Maybe that's why God doesn't give us those powers. If a child has no say in there decisions, there in bodage.
Sounds kind of like a nation of peaple we know of in the bible. Some of the worst young peaple I've known lived a sheltered life and had no freedom. They have no knowledge of the world and it sometimes eats them up.
This is where balance comes in and you become the Man God created in his image. Children are our taechers in this.

I believe that all of mankind was predestined to be redeemed when God put the animal skins on Adam and Eve. When man accepts it is his choice. Say someone buys you a ticket to the Super Bowl game. That would mean you have had a means to attend, but if you never make an effort to go then that is your choice. There is other predestined examples that I don't believe, some of which would mean men weren't created equally.

Romans 2:14 in the King James Version states, "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves."
Before Jesus came on scene in human form, all men were given a conscience naturally and still are. You know that still small voice that leads you. The conscience is not necessarily God speaking, but it is the best you have to work with. The natural conscience isn't necessarily in alignment with Gods will. Since a childs' conscience is set at a very early age, if ones parents were cannibals the child likely wouldn't see anything wrong with killing and eating another person. But when exposed to "thou shalt not kill", then his conscience would be restless. The same as for "thou shalt not covet". Before being found one must first know he is lost. Up until that time one can only do the best with what he has which is his conscience. So when the Gentile didn't have the law, he still did have a deputy to his soul which was a conscience which was not born again yet, but still it was the best he had. That is not to say some or many didn't go against their conscience but there was also probably many good Samaritans (half Jew and half Gentile) that did listen to their conscience and chose to walk in its path.

There was the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.
Some scholars interpret the parable through a Jewish-Gentile lens, suggesting that Lazarus represents the Gentile nations, who were marginalized and spiritually poor, while the rich man represents the Jewish elite who rejected the message of Jesus. This interpretation is supported by the idea that Gentiles were often seen as "dogs" by some Jews.

^^^^^ interesting concept… thank you for sharing

I don't believe in the easter bunny, a flat earth, that phones cause cancer, or that toilets swirl the other way in Australia. But I have no motivation to spend my time insulting and correcting those who do to the point of obsession. When someone is obsessed with proving there is no God, there is some reason that God upsets them so.much. I always suspect the real battle is internal.

Savell, you ok? blink if you're being held by religious fanatics! I have resources there...

Savell

It's like in your early days when you got caught by the game wardens. They would punish you with a warning or a ticket. They allowed you to keep your guns, or your pole. In hopes you will choose to change your ways. It's your choice to abide by states laws, same with God, he wants and earns for you to want him and waits so you to do so.
Even though he knows your going to fail more then not.

However, as humans instead of just going the easy route we choose the hard route. Now you have gotten wiser. No doubt in the wardens mind when they see you that they think your still up to shenanigans but they haven't caught you so they go on. Still all knowing about how you are but haven't seen it. Until the day they do and lay down the hammer. Same with God when we fail we don't think we are "caught" but somehow or way it will eventually catch up and we will hit bottom where we do change our ways and turn to him for answers and see the light and how we should have done it along time ago because it would have been much simpler.

God knows you'll fail him, but when you fail it's easier knowing he is there to help. He is not a micro manager, let's you live your life the way you want, but that doesn't mean there is any consequences. Wouldn't be nice not to roll out of the woods from a long day of lonestars and hunting without looking over your shoulder each time?? Same with life, there is a difference when you know God failing, or knowing your going to fail him. If you have God on your side you know your going to fail, you strive not to but if you do you'll know true forgiveness he works out life's issues with you. If your don't, your always looking over your shoulder and wondering if your caught, whats going to happen when you are, whats It's going to cost.