Ok explain this to me. Problem; beaver was caught in a BG and got out. Now like you would imagine he is being a pain. Shallow water no place to drown.

Is it legal to snare?

I'm not an expert on it, but I've caught a few dozen on long chain setups. I basically just make a post set for canines, but I do it in the water with castor. I'll push a few small sticks in to kinda guide the beaver to the side I want, and set for a back foot. I've not had any issues, but I'm still at the beginning of learning it. I run about 12' of chain, and set up where he is free to move around.

You can catch beaver in footholds and not drown them. There have been thousands taken this way. I've heard anything from 5ft to 12ft chain or cable. The 2 most important things here are make sure there's nothing for them to get tangled up in and 2 DO NOT use the BIG beaver traps like the ts85, cdr or mb 750. Use a trap like the #3 bridger or #3 or 4 sleepy creek. Find what works for you but don't be scared to try it.

Watch dale billingsley youtube videos and it will show you how to go about catching them with footholds with long chains or cable.

Yes I have a couple of snares in runs close where I had him in the BG but he avoids them spots like the plague.

Attended Dales demo today at the NTA, and he talked about long chaining beavers. Very informative. Eric

I'm curious about using smaller traps. All I've used is #5 longs, and not had any issues, but I've got a small sample size.

I have had trouble long chaining with the big footholds, even with no entanglement. I have also had some success. If I do it again it will be with the smaller traps. Every once in great while I have a situation with no deep water and a beaver I have to catch with a foothold.
With a solid back foot catch, they aren’t going anywhere. But in shallow water a back foot is more difficult to get a good solid catch on anyway so next time I am forced to long chain I will do my best to get to front foot with a smaller trap.
Worth noting that I do not fur trap, only control trapping, and that influences my decision to only target back feet when possible. If I fur trapped for numbers, I might do things differently.

Beaver do not get out off a BG trap ,,,,,…..
Sprung trap because of trapper malfunction,,,,, I can believe.

What's a "BG" trap?

Body grip

10' of Chain 4 Swivels and a MB750
bank set - for back foot. They're there waiting in the morning.

How shallow is shallow? You can drown a beaver in 16-18" of water if you make sure and front foot them. Stake the deep end of your drowning wire, driving the point where it is attached to the stake under the ground, that way unlike a weight where the attachment point may be several inches above the streambed, you know when they hit the bottom of the drowner the trap is clear down at the bottom.

Then Vinke you have not trapped long enough.

Not sure how your layout is there, but we can use power rams here if there’s the right kinda spots for them.
Or the ole EZ Set/Comstock type live trap.

Im in the 5ft club, lot's of entanglement here but even tangled up one's still sit there till i arrive. Big STRONG trap and back foot catch is the trick. Plenty of swivels, normally i stake off out in the water with a disposable stake and they just swim around all night or sit in the shallow water. Can't recall how many have been sitting EATING when i arrived without them noticing me, some are sitting grooming. For whatever reason they don't stress out like they do in a snare and go crazy. Can't even remember the last time i worried with a drowning rig to be honest.

I am not saying this won't work under specific circumstances, but I am surprised the NTA would condone or seemingly endorse teaching people to front foot beaver without drowning them.

My experience too

Ive seen it Twice...same beaver and a properly set 330
(Dukes) but only one time in 39 years

Wouldn't have believed it but I watched it go in and get out twice
I re set wit an MB750 to finish the job