Enablers to drunks and drugs, and anyone else who blames other sources for their mean spiritedness.

Those excuses have been played to death and those familiar with those transparent excuses see right through them.

Counselors for AA have no sympathy for the typical rhetoric that never changes.

Savell gets it.

Catch got it when the mods explained explicitly what his boundaries were after the last time. He deliberately pushed the limit .

Don't soften to this . It only enables them to continue to blame and whine and point to others. It is pathetic.

They know exactly what they are doing, and they will never see reality as long as they are pandered to. The mods who know better , and certainly have the experience to know better too. They DON'T agree with weak pandering to deliberate dysfunction.

It isn't just an apology to Ashley. It goes much deeper than that and involves more folks than herself. Other men , also.

Alcohol and pain meds are a very bad combination.

Keith

Enablers to drunks and drugs, and anyone else who blames other sources for their mean spiritedness.

Those excuses have been played to death and those familiar with those transparent excuses see right through them.

Counselors for AA have no sympathy for the typical rhetoric that never changes.

Savell gets it.

Catch got it when the mods explained explicitly what his boundaries were after the last time. He deliberately pushed the limit .

Don't soften to this . It only enables them to continue to blame and whine and point to others. It is pathetic.

They know exactly what they are doing, and they will never see reality as long as they are pandered to. The mods who know better , and certainly have the experience to know better too. They DON'T agree with weak pandering to deliberate dysfunction.

It isn't just an apology to Ashley. It goes much deeper than that and involves more folks than herself. Other men , also.

Outstanding Sir.

Thanks for being the best mod. Glad you’re here.

Catch22, Jeff, was up pretty early, he texted me at 9:29am and told me he had received a permanent ban. He wanted me to look at the thread and see if I thought he had screwed up really badly. He did.

I talked to him on the phone twice today. Yesterday, the man he looks up to most in the world, his oldest surviving brother called Jeff crying and talking about ending his life. Jeff was really shaken by it and drank alcohol, while he is on pain killers for his left hip.

Jeff's brother and sister in law are heartbroken over loss of visitation with their 10 year old granddaughter, who they were caring for. The girl's mother, who has serious problems had won custody from their son. The girl's mother told them she was never going to let them see her again. Jeff's sister in law has just been laying in bed, basically giving up.

I was able to find online that grandparents and step grandparents have legal visitation rights under new laws signed by Governor DeSantis. I gave the information to Jeff, who passed it onto his brother. Hopefully they can use the information to get a legal order allowing them to see their beloved granddaughter again.

I don't know Jeff well, but we do talk on the phone occasionally, like I do with a lot of members. Jeff is having a hard time of it. He's only 58 and he has debilitating pain in his left hip that is preventing him from doing the things he wants to do. He mentioned that his canoe has been on his truck for over a week and he's in so much pain he can't take it off. He believes he had a stroke during his last surgery, that has harmed his memory and mood.

Being in terrible pain and being frustrated over not being able to do what you want to do does not give anyone the right to treat others poorly. But it's very hard for many people to overcome that pain and frustration enough to control their emotions.

Jeff thought he was engaged in playful bantering with some other members he likes. His altered mental state ruined his discernment. That still doesn't make it right.

The doctors Jeff has been dealing with through Medicare have been less than helpful and keep scheduling things very far out. I encouraged him to just go to the ER to try to get things taken care of quicker. I told him the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Keith

This is similar to the PCR situation. .

So 22 has been cast into t-man Hades. Drinkin and typing don't mix.
22, if you run into jbyrd down there tell him hello. Sure going to miss his college football analysis this upcoming season.

I’ll try to do my best to keep you updated on sports! But no promises!!