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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: PAskinner] #8445652
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
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The lease rates given to farmers beats crop revenue..plus they pay the land taxes...and you don't have to do a thing....or spend a dime on inputs....

Yep. Can't really blame them when many farmers are only breaking even.


Hopefully that's going to change now!


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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: PAskinner] #8445801
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Originally Posted by gcs
The lease rates given to farmers beats crop revenue..plus they pay the land taxes...and you don't have to do a thing....or spend a dime on inputs....

Yep. Can't really blame them when many farmers are only breaking even.


lol, farmers only breaking even. Yeah right what a load of bullcrap.


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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8445890
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Another subsidy. Fantastic.

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: NaturesTonic] #8445910
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Originally Posted by NaturesTonic
Solar panels only have a 30 year lifespan. So after 15 years in field they are only producing 50% of what they are rated for.

I wonder what happens when the llcs leasing these farms abandon the project down the line, whose going to get left holding the bag cleaning up and removing the panels. Pretty easy to dissolve an llc and run.


Went to the cities recycling center/dump this spring and they charge $150 to take one solar panel….


This. A friend of mine was offered a lease. There is no guarantee who will dispose of the mess in 30 years.

Lots of solar farms abandoned in California

Be wary


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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8446011
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Once a solar panel farm is installed the soil is forever contaminated. Not very green are they!

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8446013
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I want to see the search for energy sources continue. This solar/wind farm thing needs to stop. They aint working. IMO the only viable electric power source fuel technology we have are coal, natural gas and nuclear.


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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: Spike369] #8446017
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Originally Posted by Spike369
Once a solar panel farm is installed the soil is forever contaminated. Not very green are they!

Care to expand on that. Contaminated with what ?

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: NaturesTonic] #8446038
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Originally Posted by NaturesTonic
Solar panels only have a 30 year lifespan. So after 15 years in field they are only producing 50% of what they are rated for.

I wonder what happens when the llcs leasing these farms abandon the project down the line, whose going to get left holding the bag cleaning up and removing the panels. Pretty easy to dissolve an llc and run.


Went to the cities recycling center/dump this spring and they charge $150 to take one solar panel….


Locally the solar farm has to put aside so much per year to cover eventual decommissioning.

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8446100
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Contaminated?, with what?

I was offered a lease for 10 acres, taxes paid, good terms,20 years, plus another 10 if wanted......ended up not close enough to a sub station so it never went through...

They claim they were responsible for decommission, but without an escrow type account I don't know how that would work. These companies sell out to each other, and if they go bankrupt how they going to do the clean up....devil is in the details

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8446137
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I know of several instances where people have to look at oil pumps and tank batteries full time and they don't own the mineral rights. They get paid some damages but it might just be for a 1/4 acre out in the middle of 40 acres. So if you have to drive around it farming for 40 yrs its a rip off. Funny how something that has to do with oil squeaks so much. I know of salt damaged ground thats been there since the early 1940's. Had a friend that hauled gypsum and saw dust most of his life trying to conquer it but it out lasted him.
The best way is to fill up with gas at the station and never see or ask where it comes from !
Thats to say nothing about smelling that gas 24/7. We had a couple near here got gassed by a newly fracked well in there house and barely was alive when help arrived. There has been cases where emergency people get killed trying to help people from gas.

Power transmission lines are also a nuisance. So is just the lines coming to your house, but if you are going to watch tv then you just put up with it. Then there is the argument of the high voltage lines by your house causing cancer.

Seems everything is a trade off, finding the sweet spot is often difficult.

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8446158
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I like electricity. I like gas powered engines. I could live without them but all this soft living has made me well soft.


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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: bluegrassman] #8446193
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Originally Posted by bluegrassman

[quote=PAskinner][quote=gcs]The lease rates given to farmers beats crop revenue..plus they pay the land taxes...and you don't have to do a thing....or spend a dime on inputs....
Yep. Can't really blame them when many farmers are only breaking even.

lol, farmers only breaking even. Yeah right what a load of bullcrap.


The ones I know are, or losing money Some years.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8446202
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I'm with Danny old enough to back away when something sounds to good and the one promising all this is gonna be long gone this was sold to that Oh that company they were sold and sold and sold Lots of land leased in the last 2 years same 15 year old truck in the driveway shingles fallin off the house if all that money is flowing nobodys spending it


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Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: PAskinner] #8446237
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
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[quote=PAskinner][quote=gcs]The lease rates given to farmers beats crop revenue..plus they pay the land taxes...and you don't have to do a thing....or spend a dime on inputs....
Yep. Can't really blame them when many farmers are only breaking even.

lol, farmers only breaking even. Yeah right what a load of bullcrap.


The ones I know are, or losing money Some years. [/
They’re doing something wrong. Definitely aren’t Iowa corn farmers

Re: Must be a pretty valuable crop [Re: trapdog1] #8446249
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by PAskinner
[quote=bluegrassman]
[quote=PAskinner][quote=gcs]The lease rates given to farmers beats crop revenue..plus they pay the land taxes...and you don't have to do a thing....or spend a dime on inputs....
Yep. Can't really blame them when many farmers are only breaking even.

lol, farmers only breaking even. Yeah right what a load of bullcrap.


The ones I know are, or losing money Some years. [/
They’re doing something wrong. Definitely aren’t Iowa corn farmers

No, they aren't. It's go huge or get out. The little family farms can't cut it. I actually know someone close who is going with the solar. An almost useless field becomes 50 grand a year. Even if it doesn't last forever, it's way more profitable than any crop.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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