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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446241
07/31/25 06:50 PM
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There’s an old saying “ if you trust the government,,,,,you haven’t studied history”

Since the beginning of governments(Roman times,,,) it should known by now that power eventually breeds self interests over public good


The “ climate crisis” is the prefect example

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: BandB] #8446252
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Originally Posted by BandB
So what is the correct temperature for the earth?

It's not necessarily about optimal temperature, but the most sensationalist voices worry about triggering a runaway greenhouse effect with a vicious feedback loop (as the earth heats up, more greenhouse gases are released, which heats the earth more and releases more greenhouse gases) that will turn us into Venus.

Venus has much more than 410 ppm of CO2 in its atmosphere and it wasn't put there by man burning fossil fuels, so I'm very skeptical that we're anywhere near triggering a runaway greenhouse effect. beaverpeeler has spoken specifically about permafrost thawing and releasing methane, but there have been periods in the earth's past that were warmer than now and the thawed permafrost didn't trigger a runaway greenhouse effect.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: rvsask] #8446264
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Originally Posted by rvsask
Yep , all those dopes at NASA know nothing too Beaverpeeler. They’re likely just a bunch of overpaid libtards taking money to make stuff up about climate change. I’m sure the coffee shop gossip gang and YouTubers/podcasters more reliable.


LOL. The Tman anti-science crew should post their education level and highest math and science classes. And grades.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446267
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If they could prove they cured acid rain, wouldn't that give them license to spend more of your money ?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446284
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More taxes , and up front fees will surely fix this imaginary issue ........especially with people eager to pay it

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8446289
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by BandB
So what is the correct temperature for the earth?

It's not necessarily about optimal temperature, but the most sensationalist voices worry about triggering a runaway greenhouse effect with a vicious feedback loop (as the earth heats up, more greenhouse gases are released, which heats the earth more and releases more greenhouse gases) that will turn us into Venus.

Venus has much more than 410 ppm of CO2 in its atmosphere and it wasn't put there by man burning fossil fuels, so I'm very skeptical that we're anywhere near triggering a runaway greenhouse effect. beaverpeeler has spoken specifically about permafrost thawing and releasing methane, but there have been periods in the earth's past that were warmer than now and the thawed permafrost didn't trigger a runaway greenhouse effect.


How close is Venus to a sun? Tough comparison

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Blaine County] #8446291
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by rvsask
Yep , all those dopes at NASA know nothing too Beaverpeeler. They’re likely just a bunch of overpaid libtards taking money to make stuff up about climate change. I’m sure the coffee shop gossip gang and YouTubers/podcasters more reliable.


LOL. The Tman anti-science crew should post their education level and highest math and science classes. And grades.


Some of the flat out dumbest people in the country have advanced degrees.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: BandB] #8446294
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Originally Posted by BandB
I may have missed it, but what is the correct temperature of the earth supposed to be?

You can ask this question over and over and all you'll get is deflection because there is NO baseline temperature for the earth.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446297
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Deflection or flat out ignoring the question.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8446298
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
How close is Venus to a sun? Tough comparison

Venus has other differences besides that. Venus has no moon, it lacks a significant magnetic field, and it lacks tectonic plates.

They do say that the sun will become hot enough in a billion years for all our oceans to boil away, so we're going to have to figure something out by then.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: wetdog] #8446304
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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by BandB
I may have missed it, but what is the correct temperature of the earth supposed to be?

You can ask this question over and over and all you'll get is deflection because there is NO baseline temperature for the earth.



Are you suggesting it should be a set temperature?

We know what temperatures are habitable and what temperatures are relative to averages gathered over hundreds of years.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8446306
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote

It's not necessarily about optimal temperature, but the most sensationalist voices worry about triggering a runaway greenhouse effect with a vicious feedback loop (as the earth heats up, more greenhouse gases are released, which heats the earth more and releases more greenhouse gases) that will turn us into Venus.

Venus has much more than 410 ppm of CO2 in its atmosphere and it wasn't put there by man burning fossil fuels, so I'm very skeptical that we're anywhere near triggering a runaway greenhouse effect. beaverpeeler has spoken specifically about permafrost thawing and releasing methane, but there have been periods in the earth's past that were warmer than now and the thawed permafrost didn't trigger a runaway greenhouse effect.


How close is Venus to a sun? Tough comparison


Mars' atmosphere is 95 percent CO2...

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8446307
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
How close is Venus to a sun? Tough comparison

Venus has other differences besides that. Venus has no moon, it lacks a significant magnetic field, and it lacks tectonic plates.

They do say that the sun will become hot enough in a billion years for all our oceans to boil away, so we're going to have to figure something out by then.


Right. So would you say Venus is irrelevant given its many dissimilarities to Earth?

I hope I live long enough to see the boil. Would be a lot of excellent eating crab from the Pacific.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446308
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This is a discussion about climate change on Earth. You guys don’t have to keep posting random facts about other planets.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446313
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So... you're claiming that The Earth is increasing in temperature due to rising carbon dioxide concentrations.

I pointed out a place that has a lot higher percentage of CO2, yet is very cold.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446318
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Yes, but again, proximity to the Sun is a very important variable. Mars’ proximity is much further relative to Earth’s. Remember all the variables we have to keep in mind?

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446322
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And like what was observed in the late 1800’s and still to this day, there are more gases than CO2 that are involved in the greenhouse gas effect.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8446330
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Yes, but again, proximity to the Sun is a very important variable. Mars’ proximity is much further relative to Earth’s. Remember all the variables we have to keep in mind?


Shouldn't matter if the prime variable is CO2. That kind of greenhouse effect would trap every photon that reaches the planet, accumulating over millions of years.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446349
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Climate change believers are gayer than a $3 bill....Driving their Toyota Prius or electric car, bunch of emasculated girly men fretting about their carbon footprint & saving the planet.

Climate change geeks wear skinny jeans, obsess about the environment, eat rabbit food, and get misty eyed listening to Elton John & Celine Dion.


Here's some settled science - If you eat beef, wear bib overalls, like burning coal to produce electricity, drive a pickup with a V8, have a Chris Stapleton CD, and hate AL Gore like no other....There's 100% chance your not gay. Lol grin


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8446360
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