Religious Scholars, I have a ?
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I’ve heard many times that forgiveness is for the person doing the forgiving more than the forgiven. We can forgive without being asked to. Why do we have to ask for forgiveness through Jesus?
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Re: Religious Scholars, I have a ?
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I wasn’t sure how to ask the question I really had but y’all’s responses have cleared it up some.
Let’s try again, is it a detriment to you if someone offers forgiveness before you have a chance to ask for it?
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Last try. lol
Can someone forgive you if they don’t know what they are forgiving? Just a blanket “I forgive you.”
Should you or would you feel forgiven?
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Forgiveness should be a given.
Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times.”
Jesus forgave you for your sins. It’s your responsibility to do it for your neighbor.
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Re: Religious Scholars, I have a ?
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I’ve heard many times that forgiveness is for the person doing the forgiving more than the forgiven. We can forgive without being asked to. Why do we have to ask for forgiveness through Jesus? Not sure what verse in scripture says to. (Ask for forgiveness through Jesus)
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You don't....but I'm not a religious scholar.... Are we not asking for forgiveness in the prayer He taught us to pray? In the prayor. Doesn't Jesus say, forgive us our trespasses ( as we forgive ) those who trespass against us.
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This is my opinion, not sure if it's necessarily found in the Bible. We sometimes are incapable of forgiveness in ourselves. When we have been hurt so bad that we can't forgive, we can ask Jesus to do it for us. In my experience, I might have to do this a thousand times and still fight with resentment, but if that's what it takes to relieve the burden of carrying anger, it's worth it.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Are we not asking for forgiveness in the prayer He taught us to pray?
In the prayor. Doesn't Jesus say, forgive us our trespasses ( as we forgive ) those who trespass against us. He taught us how to pray to the Father and also told us no one comes to the Father except through Him. 1 + 1 doesn’t = 2 ?
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This is my opinion, not sure if it's necessarily found in the Bible. We sometimes are incapable of forgiveness in ourselves. When we have been hurt so bad that we can't forgive, we can ask Jesus to do it for us. In my experience, I might have to do this a thousand times and still fight with resentment, but if that's what it takes to relieve the burden of carrying anger, it's worth it. How do you help someone with this?
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My opinion, you can ask for forgiveness from someone you wronged, or insulted, if someone wronged you, you don't ask them to offer forgiveness, that's on them.
clear as mud huh?, lol Scenario….You are about to confess how you wronged someone and ask them to forgive you. They stop you and tell you they forgive you. Would you genuinely feel free of the wrong?
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