243/6mm, 7mm08/7mm 308 7.62 all great rounds classics by all accounts.

but 6.5 is bad.. well except in a 6.5 sweed. at the same velocity or less than the 6.5 creedmoor That is balisticaly identical to my 260 Remington I had built before the creedmoor came out.

So unless you don't think a 243 is enough or a 7mm-08 at the same speed and cross over in bullet weight people should realize how fullish thay sound bad mouthing the 6.5 creedmoor. Bash the terrible/cringe but also great marketing that worked. But it's a fine efective round

Absolutely a miniscule amount of crippled deer to "long range" hunters compared to bow hunters and regular goobers with their 30-30 they shoot once a year.

I'm with ya on the big gun part tho. All the guys I know that shoot deer long range use bigger stuff, so judging them all from a few internet guys isn't accurate either.

In my area most deer are shoot under 70 yards. Furthest I have was 302 with a smokeless muzzleloader. Only becuse I had been playing at that distance on my cousins range while being layed uo on a walker and becuse I was on a walker I was not really hunting just sitting 20 yards from my truck basically waiting on my Brother in law to get done hunting where I told him to go while he was home waiting to ship out to Afghanistan.

Deer were about 50 yards I didn't see them untill the ran off when I stood up . The stiped on a hill that made a great backstop. Doe droped and is the only deer I have seen drop in a scope. Brother in law got a nice 13 point that night as well.

If i lived out west or where longer shots were possible and common I'm sure that would be different. Where and how people hunt are all different.

I use a 6.5 Gibbs for the most part,, though I also have a 270 weatherby, a 7mm STW, a 7mm Allen Mag,, and a 338 Edge. The creedmoor does well to 600 yards the gibbs to 1100 (its parent case is the 270 winchester.

There are some minor advantages to some of the newer cartridges but for hunting and the vast majority of hunters they aren't going to make any difference. Most of the newer cartridges come in factory guns with tighter tolerance chambers, faster twist barrels and slightly more efficient cases. Mostly the very slight advantages are geared towards target shooting and those who shoot a lot. Most of it is just cool factor.

imo, 95% of the "advances" in cartridged ammo in the past 30 years is nothing more than a collaboration between marketing folks and outdoor writers.

Yep! One hole in, one hole out.