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.22 Creedmoor #8451594
08/09/25 05:49 PM
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Speaking of sub standard ballistics...

I planned on getting my wife a 22-250 for deer hunting, a friend said to check out the .22 Creedmoor instead. Looks pretty decent and becoming popular fast. Anyone shot deer with one? From personal experience I know 22-250 works well on deer shooting them in the lung area, wondering if the Creedmoor would be the same?

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In a factory gun the CM would give u a fast twist barrel, allowing you to shot heavier bullets. But the scoop on them is pretty short barrel life. I've shot a couple of deer with a 22-250 and am not a fan. Neither have given me a pass through with a lung shot, resulting in zero blood trail. Lucky both were easily recovered but a lot of shots in this country a blood trail makes recovery much easier. Both deer i saw go down and if that wouldn't have happened there wasn't even any blood to tell if it was a hit or miss. If u hit a large bone u really could have problems. There's other calibers that have very low recoil that are more effective in my opinion. Maybe the heavy 22 CM bullets could handle it but don't see any advantages of it over a 243 or 6mm. Me myself have been looking at a fast twist 22br for a new 22 but u would need to hand load. My 2 cents.

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08/09/25 06:27 PM
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Just my little YouTube expert two cents here ....

.22 creed and .22-250 are basically cousins... Whatever the 250 can do the creed can do it heavier, with better feeding from a gas gun , and wait for it.....OUT THE BOX . Vs needing to go the custom route for a fast twist 250.... Unless someone is making factory 1:7 twist 250's now ...

That being said I've read the creed has had some issues with certain bullets the 250 didnt... Something about the faster twist rate spinning the bullet too fast

...but if your gonna stick with traditional grain weight .22 cal bullets most shoot in the .250 ..... Egh not much reason to go to the creed it seems.... Especially if your not hand loading

Also ammo prices and availability... Like eveyone has .22-250... usually , at least till there's a scare and all the common stuff goes first .... But other then that I know every place down here has some . Think I've seen .22 creed at like 2 places ... Not a big deal ordering online though..

So unless you wanna have the option to go heavy for calibers, you hand load , orrr you just want something new .... Eh

Just waiting for BCA to start making .22 creed barrels because I really want one in a gas gun

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Re: .22 Creedmoor [Re: Yes sir] #8451604
08/09/25 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
In a factory gun the CM would give u a fast twist barrel, allowing you to shot heavier bullets. But the scoop on them is pretty short barrel life. I've shot a couple of deer with a 22-250 and am not a fan. Neither have given me a pass through with a lung shot, resulting in zero blood trail. Lucky both were easily recovered but a lot of shots in this country a blood trail makes recovery much easier. Both deer i saw go down and if that wouldn't have happened there wasn't even any blood to tell if it was a hit or miss. If u hit a large bone u really could have problems. There's other calibers that have very low recoil that are more effective in my opinion. Maybe the heavy 22 CM bullets could handle it but don't see any advantages of it over a 243 or 6mm. Me myself have been looking at a fast twist 22br for a new 22 but u would need to hand load. My 2 cents.

Question of curiosity. What bullets were you shooting? I have a friend that claims pass through on deer and smaller bears with federal fusions, but I have not been there to see it for myself.

Re: .22 Creedmoor [Re: Yes sir] #8451606
08/09/25 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
In a factory gun the CM would give u a fast twist barrel, allowing you to shot heavier bullets. But the scoop on them is pretty short barrel life. I've shot a couple of deer with a 22-250 and am not a fan. Neither have given me a pass through with a lung shot, resulting in zero blood trail. Lucky both were easily recovered but a lot of shots in this country a blood trail makes recovery much easier. Both deer i saw go down and if that wouldn't have happened there wasn't even any blood to tell if it was a hit or miss. If u hit a large bone u really could have problems. There's other calibers that have very low recoil that are more effective in my opinion. Maybe the heavy 22 CM bullets could handle it but don't see any advantages of it over a 243 or 6mm. Me myself have been looking at a fast twist 22br for a new 22 but u would need to hand load. My 2 cents.


Made me think a little and everyone around these parts who loves the 250 never take , or very rarely take past though type shots . Usually neck shots


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Re: .22 Creedmoor [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8451657
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I was shooting 55 grain Remington soft point

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Nothing wrong with a neck shots (CNS) if u can make that shot and your willing to limit yourself to that shot. Here hunting mature bucks you never know where they are going to show up or if they are going to show up. I like to be able to take any shot angle that will put the the bullet though the vitals at any angle with the exception of the Texas heart shot, from any distance I feel efficient at when im carrying a rifle. And sometimes that means hitting big bones. You don't get a lot of chances at mature bucks and some can be over 250 pounds. My boy shot a nice buck at 200 yds in the neck facing him with a 270. It miss the spine by a very small amount and it didn't flatten him. Buck took a few steps and he put one through the heart and it dropped him. Not much blood from the neck hit and I'm not sure if the neck hit would have humanly killed the deer...???

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Doesn't Nosler still make a 60gr 224 Partition?

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22 Creedmoor? Sounds like a marketing gimick to me. Did a bunch of articles in recent gun magizines feature it?


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Have a 6mm Creed and it's basically a souped up 243. Slings a 103 grain Hornady ELD-X at around 3,200 fps. Low recoil. No deer would want to be standing in front of it when it goes off.


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Thanks guy. My wife is realistically going to shoot one or two deer with it at close range, standing still with a rest. Figured ide get something really low recoil and smaller so my kids can eventually use it also

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Originally Posted by waggler
22 Creedmoor? Sounds like a marketing gimick to me. Did a bunch of articles in recent gun magizines feature it?


No not really actually, the .22 creed hasn't gotten a ton of attention like a lot of other calibers. It's been a wild cat for a while but didn't really get mainstream till like 2020, even then really one company really messed with it Hornday only made ammo for them..... It's a weird deal imo... Hornady's treating it a bit like the red heads step child and the main ones using it are these high speed predator hunters .

Legit it's main deal is it's just the out the box ready to go version of what would usually have to be a custom fast twist .250 that and the case lende it's self better to one or two things over the .250 like goin on a gas gun


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Originally Posted by HayDay
Have a 6mm Creed and it's basically a souped up 243. Slings a 103 grain Hornady ELD-X at around 3,200 fps. Low recoil. No deer would want to be standing in front of it when it goes off.

I've got both and I don't know about the souped up part. They are ballisticly the same. The two reloading books I looked at give a very slight advantage to the 243 using the same bullets. 3200 is stepping on it a bit.

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The 3,200 I found came from a chonograph, one of my hand loads. What may help this rifle is it has a 24" barrel. But at same time, was not yet at max load. Surprised me a bit, but was what it was.


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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Thanks guy. My wife is realistically going to shoot one or two deer with it at close range, standing still with a rest. Figured ide get something really low recoil and smaller so my kids can eventually use it also

take a look at the 6.5 Grendel, awesome little gun for women and kids, Its my go to woods rifle where I know the max range will be less than 300 yards.

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Have been shooting a 22-250 AI for close to 20 years. The Creed and AI version e basically the same. I get similar barrel life from my AI as I do from standard 22-250. My current AI barrel has a round count near 2000 and still sub MOA.

The fast twist barrels have been known to “tear” thin skinned bullet jackets from bullets like Speer TNT and similar. If you are planning on shooting bullets less than 50 grains I would probably stay away from the fast twist barrels altogether.

The Creed line of cartridges are based off of the 300 savage case, the 243/260/7mm-08/etc are based off of the 308 case which has more powder capacity. Everything equal, the 243 should outrun the 6 Creed. There are always exceptions. I have been playing with the 6 ARC, for no more powder, it shouldn’t be able to do what it does.


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Maybe the 6 Arc too...

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