Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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08/13/25 04:34 PM
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In Oregon organized crime associated with it went away. There is such a glut on the market that ounces of high octane stuff sell for what they did when I was in Junior HS. Or roughly about 10-20 times less than it used to.
If it became legal federally Oregon's growers could ship it out of state.
I don't really see many more people smoking it than what there used to be around here. The glamor is gone for sure. You can't go anywhere in Chicagoland now without smelling it. Everywhere in the city it reeks of it. It's taboo to smoke cigarettes in public now but nobody does anything about all the public pot-smoking.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: NorthwesternYote]
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08/13/25 04:41 PM
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In Oregon organized crime associated with it went away. There is such a glut on the market that ounces of high octane stuff sell for what they did when I was in Junior HS. Or roughly about 10-20 times less than it used to.
If it became legal federally Oregon's growers could ship it out of state.
I don't really see many more people smoking it than what there used to be around here. The glamor is gone for sure. You can't go anywhere in Chicagoland now without smelling it. Everywhere in the city it reeks of it. It's taboo to smoke cigarettes in public now but nobody does anything about all the public pot-smoking. The same in Vegas it’s on the street in the elevators stinks to high haven. I cherish my brain some folk must not care about that it’s their brain.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: NorthwesternYote]
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08/13/25 04:52 PM
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Driving under the influence would seem to be the main issue, but the cops don't have an ez test for that...but I read that may be in the works. What about the smell test? The "I smell pot" line has been used by countless cops to perform unconstitutional searches when they couldn't otherwise obtain probable cause. No doubt that if that were the standard for DUIs it would be the same. I realize that there's no good test for cannabis intoxication, but there's just no good test YET.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: KeithC]
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08/13/25 05:14 PM
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I've never used marijuana. I believe around half of Americans have used marijuana. I don't feel strongly either way about legalization. I suspect marijuana will be legalized.
I think marijuana has some positive uses, but mostly makes people lazy, less motivated and less productive, but that's mostly their problem, not anyone else's.
Keith Seems like it is anyone elses problem when they take my tax money to provide welfare money to lazy, less motivated, and less productive people as you call them.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: midlander]
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08/13/25 05:27 PM
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I've never used marijuana. I believe around half of Americans have used marijuana. I don't feel strongly either way about legalization. I suspect marijuana will be legalized.
I think marijuana has some positive uses, but mostly makes people lazy, less motivated and less productive, but that's mostly their problem, not anyone else's.
Keith Seems like it is anyone elses problem when they take my tax money to provide welfare money to lazy, less motivated, and less productive people as you call them. I don't think that people using marijuana should be supported by the American tax payer either. Keith
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: loosegoose]
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08/13/25 05:40 PM
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The "I smell pot" line has been used by countless cops to perform unconstitutional searches when they couldn't otherwise obtain probable cause. No doubt that if that were the standard for DUIs it would be the same.
I realize that there's no good test for cannabis intoxication, but there's just no good test YET.
Since there is no good test, your previous statistic is meaningless.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: Windstalker]
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08/13/25 05:41 PM
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Why should the government dictate what you can and cannot do. Should we ban alcohol and guns because they also kill people? I mean let’s at least be consistent. Decisions and irresponsibility kill people, objects/drugs don’t.
Drugs do eventually lead to physical addiction, though, which makes it very difficult for people to voluntarily quit. Some drugs lead to awful and, in the case of alcohol (one of the WORST drugs in this respect), potentially lethal withdrawal symptoms. And when people reach this point, there is always collateral damage to other people around them.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: Pike River]
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08/13/25 05:53 PM
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States like Washington and California thought they were going to make a killing off the taxes that the sale of legal pot would bring in. It worked at first, but now the competition in the market is causing the price to collapse and the tax revenue to shrink substantially. The pot industry in CA is asking for bailouts as it is becoming impossible for many to produce at a profit.
Pot sales in the first quarter of 2025 in Washington was $277 million, in 2021 it was $377 million. it has been decreasing for the past five years, not because there is less demand, but because it is getting cheaper.
In Washington there are three tiers in the industry; (1) Grower, (2) Processor/Wholesaler, (3) Retailer. License holders can only be involved one of the three businesses. Each business pays the State a 25% tax on their sales, This means the pot is taxed at 25% three separate times, plus the consumer pays a 10% sales tax. The State is now worried about the declining revenue. Kind of humorous imo.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: waggler]
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08/13/25 06:04 PM
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States like Washington and California thought they were going to make a killing off the taxes that the sale of legal pot would bring in. It worked at first, but now the competition in the market is causing the price to collapse and the tax revenue to shrink substantially. The pot industry in CA is asking for bailouts as it is becoming impossible for many to produce at a profit.
Pot sales in the first quarter of 2025 in Washington was $277 million, in 2021 it was $377 million. it has been decreasing for the past five years, not because there is less demand, but because it is getting cheaper.
In Washington there are three tiers in the industry; (1) Grower, (2) Processor/Wholesaler, (3) Retailer. License holders can only be involved one of the three businesses. Each business pays the State a 25% tax on their sales, This means the pot is taxed at 25% three separate times, plus the consumer pays a 10% sales tax. The State is now worried about the declining revenue. Kind of humorous imo. They shouldn't be bailed out. CA should let the market correct and proceed to stabilize.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: Pike River]
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08/13/25 06:05 PM
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I wish everytime I had to go to waldo world I didn't have to smell half arsed skunk smell. I always tell my daughter we should show them what good skunk smells like.
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: Pike River]
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08/13/25 06:16 PM
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I wonder what choices folks would make if those choices voided the health or financial services it takes to counter their bad choices in life. So they have the right to keep making poor choices then expect the same as that of a better lifestyle person has available or better take that service away from a person that choose a healthy lifestyle.
So it’s all about doing what you want without the responsibility of those choices how fair is that?
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: Pike River]
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08/13/25 06:25 PM
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careful, it might make your kids chubby thank you folks would have something to complain about again.
Water is good for two things, Floating Ships and making Beer.
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Re: Marijuana Change
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08/13/25 06:56 PM
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I cherish my brain some folk must not care about that it’s their brain. What? What? What?
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Marijuana Change
[Re: cotton]
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08/13/25 06:56 PM
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Lmao is huge patches of poppys planted along I-81[/quote]
Not all Poppy's can produce opiates
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