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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453764
08/13/25 07:54 PM
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….. I knew a guy that liked the way that Chrystal meth smelled

… coon huntin son of a gun lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453786
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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: bowhunter27295] #8453787
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Windstalker
Why should the government dictate what you can and cannot do. Should we ban alcohol and guns because they also kill people? I mean let’s at least be consistent. Decisions and irresponsibility kill people, objects/drugs don’t.




Did you seriously just type that drugs don't kill people?

Ever heard of narcan?


Someone made the conscious decision to take the drug that may or may not kill them. Who is forcing someone to shoot up and OD? It was their own choice. Addictions start with a choice in the beginning, no excuses.

Guns kill people every day too, because someone made a decision to use them in that manner. Should we make them illegal? That is the individuals poor choice and irresponsibility.

Alcohol kills people daily. Because someone made the decision to be irresponsible. Should we make alcohol illegal?

Please explain the differences. It’s two sides of the same tree. People make bad decisions and act irresponsibly every day with all sorts of things. Does that mean they should ruin it for those that make good decisions and act responsibly? Why does big brother get to decide what is and what is not acceptable?

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Windstalker] #8453842
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Originally Posted by Windstalker
Decisions and irresponsibility kill people, objects/drugs don’t.


Not all decisions are legal, nor should they be.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: KeithC] #8453847
08/13/25 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by BigBob
Just what the world needs is another class of crap faced drivers on our roads!!!!! Grrr mad
AND, to those dope eaters that say it's no worse than alcohol, Well Is it any better??

Well, yes, actually it is better. A lot better. Like, by a huge margin.

178,000 alcohol related deaths per year. Basically zero marijuana related deaths per year.

(I'm not a marijuana user, btw. Tried it a couple times right out of highschool. Not for me).


Pretty easy to test is somone is drunk (aka currently on alcohol)
No way yo know if THC is active in the system.
That makes the statistics hard to figure out, but I agree alcohol abuse is more evil than pot but also I don't want to pick between a lesser of two evils.



Originally Posted by KeithC
I've never used marijuana. I believe around half of Americans have used marijuana. I don't feel strongly either way about legalization. I suspect marijuana will be legalized.

I think marijuana has some positive uses, but mostly makes people lazy, less motivated and less productive, but that's mostly their problem, not anyone else's.

Keith


There is a reason they call it "dope", and its not because ot makes you smart.

It's infuriating than taking the time to explain something to someone and looking at their eyes to see the glazed over almost blank stare of them trying to hide that they are stoned.

I used to smoke but since quitting, a little over a decade ago, I've become against its use and legalization.


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453851
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Wait....did I really just see someone argue that people shouldn't be be allowed to have legal representation? Yikes

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: bowhunter27295] #8453852
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
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I'd be curious in the states that have legalize it if it's been a good thing for society or a negative



Here is what I found for some stats.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8672945/

All these

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453861
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Anyone who thinks increase drug use doesn't affect anyone but the user should probably not ever complain about society problems that abundance drug abuse brings with it. Legalizing will make it's use more accepted and will increase the users and usage.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: bowhunter27295] #8453874
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by loosegoose
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So legalize them all?

Well, the alternative is to legislate what people can and can't put in their own bodies.

If you support drug criminalization, then you support the govt telling people what they can't put into their own bodies, and I ain't about that sort of tyranny. Simple as that.

Freedom is messy.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: bowhunter27295] #8453894
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Then are you for the harsh penalties I suggest? If a person decides to put something in their body that endangers me or my family, penalties should be more dangerous.

Or is the freedom to get stoned more important?

Well of course I'm for punishment of crime against other people. If someone hurts you or your family either intentionally or through negligence, then they should be punished. The simple act of using, selling, purchasing a plant or chemical doesn't harm anyone though. (Unless you're the tax man and don't get your cut, of course).

But I'm also in support of legal representation and the concept of innocent until proven guilty.

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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
And speaking of tyranny.

Will guns keep us from tyranny or allow it's fruition?

Same question for drugs.

The criminalization of either is tyranny.

The criminalization of guns is tyranny because it prevents one from being able to defend oneself against violence.

The criminalization of drugs is tyranny because it is govt control over another person's bodily autonomy.

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: loosegoose] #8453903
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
The criminalization of either is tyranny.

The criminalization of guns is tyranny because it prevents one from being able to defend oneself against violence.

The criminalization of drugs is tyranny because it is govt control over another person's bodily autonomy.

We have the 2nd Amendment for guns. There is no such thing for drugs. I'd prefer to leave it up to the individual states where the citizens themselves can vote on their drug policy.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Law Dog] #8453906
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should not have ever been illegal.

It is a plant. And, the government has no business telling people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

Freedom, people. Freedom. It is a good thing.



So you’re all for people growing poppy plants?

I am and it is legal

making a tea of the blossoms is also legal

refining it is not

Decades ago if it were up to me I would have made pot legal IF , you grew it yourself and kept it on your own property and made it have zero commercial value make the act of selling it illegal , give the seeds to be transported in quantities of 50 or less but no transporting it.

the issue is in super concentration and making it for others consumption not at your home.


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America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453914
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At minimum, marijuana should be reclassified. The very definition of a Schedule I narcotic is that it has no currently accepted medical use and lack of accepted safety under medical supervision. This is pretty bogus considering how many states have legalized it for medical use, and the proven medical benefits.

Personal example: I had a significant shoulder surgery when I was 19. Instead of taking the doctor-prescribed heavy duty opiates (which are proven to be seriously addictive) I just used marijuana instead. It worked just as well as the opiates, but also allowed me to have an appetite and sleep like a baby.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8453926
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
People need to study the history of weed in the USA....Go back to the 1920's and read up on the Federal Bureau of Narcotics Harry Anslinger....The alcohol, textile, and tobacco companies lobbied the politicians and got some pretty ridiculous laws passed.

People were more naive then. The movie reefer madness had folks thinking it was the devils lettuce.

Read Jack Herer's book "The emperor wears no clothes"

Pot being schedule 1, along with heroin and such is retarded....Reschedule it, adults only, and end this insanity...It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon, and not half as bad on the body.


Bingo!!!

The sky did not fall with legalized weed here.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Savell] #8453956
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Originally Posted by Savell
….. I knew a guy that liked the way that Chrystal meth smelled

… coon huntin son of a gun lol


I coon hunted with a guy like that once….we treed on the side of a corn field and when I shined the tree, he said look at em all…there’s hundreds of em. He thought every star in the sky was coon eyes!

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8453986
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon


Not from my experience. A couple of months back, I took a single hit and could barely function. It reminded me why I never liked weed. The stuff they produce now is nothing like what they produced back in the day, which for me was in the 70s. I'll stick with beer and scotch.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8453987
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by loosegoose
The criminalization of either is tyranny.

The criminalization of guns is tyranny because it prevents one from being able to defend oneself against violence.

The criminalization of drugs is tyranny because it is govt control over another person's bodily autonomy.

We have the 2nd Amendment for guns. There is no such thing for drugs. I'd prefer to leave it up to the individual states where the citizens themselves can vote on their drug policy.



When the government can tell you what you can put in your body you loose freedom and it has creap. I can't butcher a cow on my farm and sell a lb of meat to a neighbor legally becuse I'm not a licensed processing facility. Same goes for selling a quart of goat milk.

O but it's for safety. People are to dumb to be able to.chose what they deam safe for their family. I'm sure the Mexicans in the processing plant care about sanitation and quality far less than I do considering I'm feeding myself and family out of the same freezer.

But what can you say some people need to feel like the government keeps them safe and won't take responsibility to do that for themselves.

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Jkeith] #8453989
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Originally Posted by Jkeith
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon


Not from my experience. A couple of months back, I took a single hit and could barely function. It reminded me why I never liked weed. The stuff they produce now is nothing like what they produced back in the day, which for me was in the 70s. I'll stick with beer and scotch.

Ha! Similar. I took a hit from a friend a few months ago and it ruined me for the night and into the next day. I hit it hard though like it was 1999 all over again.

I do feel like a hypocrite though because I drink which I feel is more destructive.

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Originally Posted by Pike River
Ha! Similar. I took a hit from a friend a few months ago and it ruined me for the night and into the next day. I hit it hard though like it was 1999 all over again.

I do feel like a hypocrite though because I drink which I feel is more destructive.


Same here, but like it was 1979 all over again. grin

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