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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453900
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What was the beneficial purpose of the 2A?

What would be the beneficial purpose of legalizing meth?


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: loosegoose] #8453903
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
The criminalization of either is tyranny.

The criminalization of guns is tyranny because it prevents one from being able to defend oneself against violence.

The criminalization of drugs is tyranny because it is govt control over another person's bodily autonomy.

We have the 2nd Amendment for guns. There is no such thing for drugs. I'd prefer to leave it up to the individual states where the citizens themselves can vote on their drug policy.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Law Dog] #8453906
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should not have ever been illegal.

It is a plant. And, the government has no business telling people what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

Freedom, people. Freedom. It is a good thing.



So you’re all for people growing poppy plants?

I am and it is legal

making a tea of the blossoms is also legal

refining it is not

Decades ago if it were up to me I would have made pot legal IF , you grew it yourself and kept it on your own property and made it have zero commercial value make the act of selling it illegal , give the seeds to be transported in quantities of 50 or less but no transporting it.

the issue is in super concentration and making it for others consumption not at your home.


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America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: loosegoose] #8453908
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Then are you for the harsh penalties I suggest? If a person decides to put something in their body that endangers me or my family, penalties should be more dangerous.

Or is the freedom to get stoned more important?

Well of course I'm for punishment of crime against other people. If someone hurts you or your family either intentionally or through negligence, then they should be punished. The simple act of using, selling, purchasing a plant or chemical doesn't harm anyone though. (Unless you're the tax man and don't get your cut, of course).

But I'm also in support of legal representation and the concept of innocent until proven guilty.


Of course selling someone something doesn't harm anyone. That is only a business transaction. But the consumption of said product has the potential to cause death.

How should all of these hallucinogens and narcotics be taxed? Who is gonna regulate the potency and production? Where will the Coca and marijuana be farmed? In order to be safe we should also make all the products used to make meth legal. Will we need to offer even more free detox facilities and free methadone clinics?

And the most important question. Who pays the taxes for all of this? The bureaucracy will be immense.


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: loosegoose] #8453909
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Originally Posted by loosegoose

Freedom is messy.


And to be guarded with zeal and the harshest of penalties. I could not agree more.


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453914
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At minimum, marijuana should be reclassified. The very definition of a Schedule I narcotic is that it has no currently accepted medical use and lack of accepted safety under medical supervision. This is pretty bogus considering how many states have legalized it for medical use, and the proven medical benefits.

Personal example: I had a significant shoulder surgery when I was 19. Instead of taking the doctor-prescribed heavy duty opiates (which are proven to be seriously addictive) I just used marijuana instead. It worked just as well as the opiates, but also allowed me to have an appetite and sleep like a baby.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
At minimum, marijuana should be reclassified. The very definition of a Schedule I narcotic is that it has no currently accepted medical use and lack of accepted safety under medical supervision. This is pretty bogus considering how many states have legalized it for medical use, and the proven medical benefits.

Personal example: I had a significant shoulder surgery when I was 19. Instead of taking the doctor-prescribed heavy duty opiates (which are proven to be seriously addictive) I just used marijuana instead. It worked just as well as the opiates, but also allowed me to have an appetite and sleep like a baby.



100% in favor of medical use. Wish my mom would have tried medical marijuana or THC of some kind. She was addicted to oxy and it was brutal. Still alive and sober now.


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8453926
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
People need to study the history of weed in the USA....Go back to the 1920's and read up on the Federal Bureau of Narcotics Harry Anslinger....The alcohol, textile, and tobacco companies lobbied the politicians and got some pretty ridiculous laws passed.

People were more naive then. The movie reefer madness had folks thinking it was the devils lettuce.

Read Jack Herer's book "The emperor wears no clothes"

Pot being schedule 1, along with heroin and such is retarded....Reschedule it, adults only, and end this insanity...It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon, and not half as bad on the body.


Bingo!!!

The sky did not fall with legalized weed here.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Savell] #8453956
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Originally Posted by Savell
….. I knew a guy that liked the way that Chrystal meth smelled

… coon huntin son of a gun lol


I coon hunted with a guy like that once….we treed on the side of a corn field and when I shined the tree, he said look at em all…there’s hundreds of em. He thought every star in the sky was coon eyes!

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8453986
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon


Not from my experience. A couple of months back, I took a single hit and could barely function. It reminded me why I never liked weed. The stuff they produce now is nothing like what they produced back in the day, which for me was in the 70s. I'll stick with beer and scotch.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8453987
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by loosegoose
The criminalization of either is tyranny.

The criminalization of guns is tyranny because it prevents one from being able to defend oneself against violence.

The criminalization of drugs is tyranny because it is govt control over another person's bodily autonomy.

We have the 2nd Amendment for guns. There is no such thing for drugs. I'd prefer to leave it up to the individual states where the citizens themselves can vote on their drug policy.



When the government can tell you what you can put in your body you loose freedom and it has creap. I can't butcher a cow on my farm and sell a lb of meat to a neighbor legally becuse I'm not a licensed processing facility. Same goes for selling a quart of goat milk.

O but it's for safety. People are to dumb to be able to.chose what they deam safe for their family. I'm sure the Mexicans in the processing plant care about sanitation and quality far less than I do considering I'm feeding myself and family out of the same freezer.

But what can you say some people need to feel like the government keeps them safe and won't take responsibility to do that for themselves.

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Jkeith] #8453989
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Originally Posted by Jkeith
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon


Not from my experience. A couple of months back, I took a single hit and could barely function. It reminded me why I never liked weed. The stuff they produce now is nothing like what they produced back in the day, which for me was in the 70s. I'll stick with beer and scotch.

Ha! Similar. I took a hit from a friend a few months ago and it ruined me for the night and into the next day. I hit it hard though like it was 1999 all over again.

I do feel like a hypocrite though because I drink which I feel is more destructive.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8453992
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Ha! Similar. I took a hit from a friend a few months ago and it ruined me for the night and into the next day. I hit it hard though like it was 1999 all over again.

I do feel like a hypocrite though because I drink which I feel is more destructive.


Same here, but like it was 1979 all over again. grin

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Make it federally legal than let the states decide then tax it Federally and lower our income tax. Right now its a joke that it is federally banned but all but six states make it legal. The feds found out long ago with booze you cant stop people from drinking, or gambling just as well stop the nonsense and tax it. I have never used it most likely because it was not around when I was a kid and never needed it in Nam the beer was enough.

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If only there was a better way to have accountability for peoples bad choices the ones abusing themselves the most are supported by the folks making better choices. I see the handicapped van going down the road and they are smoking a cigarette and see zero accountability there and nothing will be done about it they don’t care!


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454179
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No shortage of pearl clutching up in here. Lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454191
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… one hand in here even seen somebody smoking a cigarette while driving

… must be a rough area lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454194
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… I was hunting with wild ol hand from Crockett one time

.. I was tired and he said he had some truck driver pills …. I took one of those and you talk about being alert now lol

… I have no idea what that was but it definitely wasn’t caffeine lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Jkeith] #8454218
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Originally Posted by Jkeith
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon


Not from my experience. A couple of months back, I took a single hit and could barely function. It reminded me why I never liked weed. The stuff they produce now is nothing like what they produced back in the day, which for me was in the 70s. I'll stick with beer and scotch.



That sounds like either some laced weed, or you smoked the best ganja ever...Got a challenge for you...Haven't smoked in years, but bring the best weed you can find, and I will take 3 hits, talk a bit and walk off the porch with no problem.

Then, I'll pour you a glass of moon...You won't finish it....And I'll pack you off the porch, Lol grin


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You can have the stuff. I also could not move when I tried it in the past. Stuck in a chair outside listening to INXS just blown away with the music.
Ate a whole bag of radishes and texted everyone I knew about radishes insisting that they try them.

While that is funny, I was really worried because I could not function whatsoever. If someone needed help I couldn’t do anything.

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