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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454208
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I give both every day at work, fentanyl in doses that vary from extremely small to fairly large, morphine less commonly used than fentanyl. That being said its far more controlled than the stuff being sold on the street. I am absolutely against them being used for "recreation"...also I haven't worked with a single drug addict that uses an opiate because its a fun sport. Most evolve from injuries and over prescription of opiate pain medication. Once that dries they move on to the street, usually first to pills then onto heavier hitters.

Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454209
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with all my accidents and busted up crap I have been on lots of opiates and morphine in hospital, did I like it yep, did I get hooked nope. I used them for their purpose fight pain. I take hydrocodone every day a small dose but daily. I am with many of you legalize fentanyl let nature take its course. My brother died of fentanyl but he was a lost soul long before that.


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454255
08/14/25 03:46 PM
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How about this if it’s your right to do risky drugs then it should be your responsibility to pay for the problems it brings about that seems only fair to me since I don’t want to partake in your drugs why should I pay to fix what you break by exercising those choices? Are you not bound to any responsibility for those things you voluntarily ingested on purpose?

So if your property and wealth was tied to the choice to do dangerous drugs as your “right” would you still use them then if total “responsibility” came with that choice? Say you over do it or get slipped some fentanyl because you made a bad decision “ because your taking impairment drug” lol

Can they take everything of worth that you own as payment then or do the rights thing void the responsibility part of it?


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454256
08/14/25 03:51 PM
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Everyone should be solely responsible for the drugs they take.

That includes tobacco, alcohol and unhealthy food. No Medicaid or Medicare, or other welfare or government services, because of personal choices.

Sign me up for that society!

Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: Blaine County] #8454260
08/14/25 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everyone should be solely responsible for the drugs they take.

That includes tobacco, alcohol and unhealthy food. No Medicaid or Medicare, or other welfare or government services, because of personal choices.

Sign me up for that society!

Does the average addict have the means to pay recompense for the damage they cause?

Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: Blaine County] #8454263
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everyone should be solely responsible for the drugs they take.

That includes tobacco, alcohol and unhealthy food. No Medicaid or Medicare, or other welfare or government services, because of personal choices.

Sign me up for that society!



If its your property and you had to pay I’d bet you would sing a different tune then most folks would I’m guessing talks cheap.


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8454265
08/14/25 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everyone should be solely responsible for the drugs they take.

That includes tobacco, alcohol and unhealthy food. No Medicaid or Medicare, or other welfare or government services, because of personal choices.

Sign me up for that society!

Does the average addict have the means to pay recompense for the damage they cause?



I’m talking about the new experimental folks that think it’s not an issues with no impact for their future.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454279
08/14/25 04:36 PM
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I learned that opium, morphine and heroin all come from the opium poppy plant.


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: Gary Benson] #8454298
08/14/25 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I learned that opium, morphine and heroin all come from the opium poppy plant.



I don’t understand addiction and drug use not because I don’t care I just can’t make a logical sense of it. I’ve seen many lives/families destroyed by it so folks lining up to go all in just seems crazy to me.


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454304
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Sounds like most of you only want it legalized to kill off the deadbeats and dregs of society. This tells me the most of you want/desire a safe and orderly society that is free of addicts and weaker willed undisciplined people. The most of you want people who are responsible.

I get the survival of the fittest thing but there will be a wake of destruction that may touch your family. Is this what a wise society would do? More people will try it if it is legal. More family members will get addicted and worse.

I just can’t make the math work in my head.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454309
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Last year, I had an injury and they gave me dilaudid (sp) when I was in the hospital. I didn't care for the feeling it gave me when it first was put in the IV. I think I will pass.

Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454315
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Sounds like most of you only want it legalized to kill off the deadbeats and dregs of society. This tells me the most of you want/desire a safe and orderly society that is free of addicts and weaker willed undisciplined people. The most of you want people who are responsible.

I get the survival of the fittest thing but there will be a wake of destruction that may touch your family. Is this what a wise society would do? More people will try it if it is legal. More family members will get addicted and worse.

I just can’t make the math work in my head.


Out in nature the animals that can't take care of themselves die off. It's a balance that works. As a kind society we take care of people (most intelligent species on earth) and reward them monetarily for reproducing. We're at about 50% now and the deadbeats are outreproducing the folks taking care of them. We're at a tipping point where it's unsustainable and the country is 35 trillion in debt but it continues to continue.


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454324
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Sounds like most of you only want it legalized to kill off the deadbeats and dregs of society. This tells me the most of you want/desire a safe and orderly society that is free of addicts and weaker willed undisciplined people. The most of you want people who are responsible.

I get the survival of the fittest thing but there will be a wake of destruction that may touch your family. Is this what a wise society would do? More people will try it if it is legal. More family members will get addicted and worse.

I just can’t make the math work in my head.



Is the illegality of heroin the only thing holding you personally back from shooting up?

For me personally, it's the whole not wanting to be dead thing that's stopping me. The illegality is irrelevant.

Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454328
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This is a slippery slope that has been visited before and no good came of it !

Even if people were responsible with use, and who labels that limit? There would be excessive use and more people that found out they could not handle it, even the premise that people can handle has already been proven false !

No good can come from people freely using opiates in any manner the writing is already on so many graves its a no brainer to even consider doing so.

Freedoms of use even in alcohol has been proven to be a considerable nightmare for many people, pot is another that is now on its way for free and every day use with consequences being held on individuals abusing it, saying its not an opiate so it's safe LOL

We have enough problems in courts now trying to hold people responsible for lesser actions, why do we need to let a whole new curse loose to deal with, when most know the consequences it will lead to, makes no sense to me !!

People saying well let those who use suffer their responsibility of failure, unfortunately it does not work that way as problems already with these opiates already show what happens to people using them, that means everyone around them suffers as well trying to cope with the victims of use. This is not fair to those who know better and don't use and can learn to cope with life without using, users don't pay for the trouble they cause, they can't, they are unable to do so because of what's been taken from them through the use of the drugs !!


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454329
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Sounds like most of you only want it legalized to kill off the deadbeats and dregs of society. This tells me the most of you want/desire a safe and orderly society that is free of addicts and weaker willed undisciplined people. The most of you want people who are responsible.

I get the survival of the fittest thing but there will be a wake of destruction that may touch your family. Is this what a wise society would do? More people will try it if it is legal. More family members will get addicted and worse.

I just can’t make the math work in my head.


You just possess compassion bowhunter. Knowing the destruction drugs can cause makes a compassionate soul want to outlaw such drugs regardless of the "freedom" lost. However, in my mind drugs shouldn't be made legal or illegal, they should just be. However, that genie has been let out of the bottle. Now any attempt to legalize drugs, legitimizes them.

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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454330
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I loved the morphine button when I ripped my eye open and they sutured it up.

Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454359
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I’d say most folks don’t really want anyone to die but the ones think they have the right to do what they want to do so the responsibility part gets realized down the road and the fallout means nothing by then. The one thinking it’s a great idea are not focused on the pitfalls ahead with family, friends, jobs and quality of life.

Show me a productive drug user thats more successful when using drugs.


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: Law Dog] #8454362
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
I’d say most folks don’t really want anyone to die but the ones think they have the right to do what they want to do so the responsibility part gets realized down the road and the fallout means nothing by then. The one thinking it’s a great idea are not focused on the pitfalls ahead with family, friends, jobs and quality of life.

Show me a productive drug user thats more successful when using drugs.


…. That guy I knew that liked the smell of Chrystal meth could out hunt anybody at night ….and talk about splitting some firewood .. unbeatable lol


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Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454369
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From where I sit the war on drugs aint working. We keep hearing about these arrests but I have not heard of any hospitals being over run with patients in life threatening withdrawal. Too much money being made.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Let’s legalize fentanyl and morphine [Re: bowhunter27295] #8454397
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Exactly
Gubmint throwing $ at it but it ain't working. People like being impaired. Even Jesus drank wine! Ps. (Drinks)

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