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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454084
08/14/25 10:24 AM
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Make it federally legal than let the states decide then tax it Federally and lower our income tax. Right now its a joke that it is federally banned but all but six states make it legal. The feds found out long ago with booze you cant stop people from drinking, or gambling just as well stop the nonsense and tax it. I have never used it most likely because it was not around when I was a kid and never needed it in Nam the beer was enough.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454165
08/14/25 12:52 PM
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If only there was a better way to have accountability for peoples bad choices the ones abusing themselves the most are supported by the folks making better choices. I see the handicapped van going down the road and they are smoking a cigarette and see zero accountability there and nothing will be done about it they don’t care!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454179
08/14/25 01:09 PM
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No shortage of pearl clutching up in here. Lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454191
08/14/25 01:22 PM
08/14/25 01:22 PM
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… one hand in here even seen somebody smoking a cigarette while driving

… must be a rough area lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454194
08/14/25 01:25 PM
08/14/25 01:25 PM
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… I was hunting with wild ol hand from Crockett one time

.. I was tired and he said he had some truck driver pills …. I took one of those and you talk about being alert now lol

… I have no idea what that was but it definitely wasn’t caffeine lol


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Jkeith] #8454218
08/14/25 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkeith
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
It's a heckuva lot less potent than whiskey or moon


Not from my experience. A couple of months back, I took a single hit and could barely function. It reminded me why I never liked weed. The stuff they produce now is nothing like what they produced back in the day, which for me was in the 70s. I'll stick with beer and scotch.



That sounds like either some laced weed, or you smoked the best ganja ever...Got a challenge for you...Haven't smoked in years, but bring the best weed you can find, and I will take 3 hits, talk a bit and walk off the porch with no problem.

Then, I'll pour you a glass of moon...You won't finish it....And I'll pack you off the porch, Lol grin


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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454223
08/14/25 02:29 PM
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You can have the stuff. I also could not move when I tried it in the past. Stuck in a chair outside listening to INXS just blown away with the music.
Ate a whole bag of radishes and texted everyone I knew about radishes insisting that they try them.

While that is funny, I was really worried because I could not function whatsoever. If someone needed help I couldn’t do anything.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454232
08/14/25 02:44 PM
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Do guns kill people or the person using the gun?

Weed, meth, booze, Tylenol, candy, all the same.

People make choices and the outcome is the result of the person’s choice(s).

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Leroy Bob] #8454233
08/14/25 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Do guns kill people or the person using the gun?

Weed, meth, booze, Tylenol, candy, all the same.

People make choices and the outcome is the result of the person’s choice(s).

People don't get physically addicted to guns.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454243
08/14/25 03:18 PM
08/14/25 03:18 PM
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I would say the least contributing member of society is the drug addict they are a drain on every resource and person they come in contact with while addicted. If the truth would set them free they would continue to lie out of habit it’s just the way it is. Never seen or heard anyone ever say anything positive about an addict that was real or that lasted very long.

A local addict just passed early on I knew her as a kid before she went over to the dark side then I had to deal with her professionally for many years. Drugs and only drugs was the only priority in her life, zero empathy for the rest of the world while demanding everything she wanted be given to her. Every word out of her was a manipulative action to get what she wanted. She would destroy your life for not giving her a second cigarette when the deal was only one and that was a high risk ordeal giving the one smoke.

I quit doing part time transports because I would not take her to a doctor appointment by myself that they screwed up on. I can cover my time on a transport by checking in every 15 minutes and the time traveled to do the next place but a Dr. appointment you can’t do it it’s a huge risk. For what they paid me it’s not worth the hassle playing the reindeer games. Get me a matron or have a female take her but I’m not going alone with her.

I’m not saying people cannot overcome addictions but I do not deal with those folks much if they got it together in life unless in some random run in. I don’t think more drugs are a good thing. The people that are shouting freedom don’t shout much about responsibility and expect you to be responsible for their bad choices if things go south that becomes their right then.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8454245
08/14/25 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Do guns kill people or the person using the gun?

Weed, meth, booze, Tylenol, candy, all the same.

People make choices and the outcome is the result of the person’s choice(s).

People don't get physically addicted to guns.



I don’t know about that you have never been to a gun shop with me I start to twitch a bit.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Law Dog] #8454247
08/14/25 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
I don’t know about that you have never been to a gun shop with me I start to twitch a bit.

If they were withdrawal symptoms from a physical addiction, wouldn't you twitch after leaving the gun shop and not from entering?

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Law Dog] #8454250
08/14/25 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
IThe people that are shouting freedom don’t shout much about responsibility and expect you to be responsible for their bad choices if things go south that becomes their right then.


Where has anyone in this entire thread said that anybody but the drug addict should be responsible for the drug addicts bad choices?

All I've seen out of the pro-legalization side is a desire to also end the welfare state.

Of course, that includes ending medicare and disability. All the folks, young and old, who have health problems from a lifetime of smoking, drinking, or poor eating habits should also be responsible for themselves and not rely on the public dole.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454252
08/14/25 03:42 PM
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Just read where some age groups have seen a 90% reduction in alcohol use.
Maybe they enjoy no hangovers ?
Haven't looked into it.
But it did say mostly the younger crowd.
I do have a card and I use when needed.
Alcohol doesn't fit well beyond the occasional cold beers.
When offered.

Last edited by Dillrod; 08/14/25 08:34 PM. Reason: Clarification

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: loosegoose] #8454267
08/14/25 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Law Dog
IThe people that are shouting freedom don’t shout much about responsibility and expect you to be responsible for their bad choices if things go south that becomes their right then.


Where has anyone in this entire thread said that anybody but the drug addict should be responsible for the drug addicts bad choices?

All I've seen out of the pro-legalization side is a desire to also end the welfare state.

Of course, that includes ending medicare and disability. All the folks, young and old, who have health problems from a lifetime of smoking, drinking, or poor eating habits should also be responsible for themselves and not rely on the public dole.



So you end up in the hospital by your choice who’s paying for that bad choice it’s not rocket science is it are you selling your house to make it right?

Last edited by Law Dog; 08/14/25 04:12 PM.

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Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Law Dog] #8454269
08/14/25 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog



So you end up in the hospital by your choice who’s paying for that bad choice it’s not rocket science is it are you selling your house to make it right?


Me personally? I have insurance.

In the case of the drug addict (or the old guy who are garbage their whole life)? If they have insurance, good for them. Their insurance company can decide whether to pay for it. That a contractual relationship between those two parties. If they don't have insurance? Too bad, should have made better life choices.

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454270
08/14/25 04:17 PM
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So if legalized will insurance companies be expected to pay for overdose and reaction issues? Is that now a healthcare issue it goes on and on.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: loosegoose] #8454271
08/14/25 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Law Dog



So you end up in the hospital by your choice who’s paying for that bad choice it’s not rocket science is it are you selling your house to make it right?


Me personally? I have insurance.

In the case of the drug addict (or the old guy who are garbage their whole life)? If they have insurance, good for them. Their insurance company can decide whether to pay for it. That a contractual relationship between those two parties. If they don't have insurance? Too bad, should have made better life choices.



You have dangerous drug insurance that must be comforting. crazy


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Law Dog] #8454273
08/14/25 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
So if legalized will insurance companies be expected to pay for overdose and reaction issues? Is that now a healthcare issue it goes on and on.

Only if they choose to. Ending the welfare state, as I see it, includes ending forcing insurance companies to cover things (Obamacare nonsense).

If an insurance company wants to sell a plan that covers drug problems, then that's their business. If not, then that's also their business. (Of course, if a person purchases insurance that covers drug problems, then the insurance company needs to honor their contract).

Re: Marijuana Change [Re: Pike River] #8454277
08/14/25 04:28 PM
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So......if a drug addict ends up in the hospital but has no insurance........how does the hospital get reimbursed ?

Same situation with illegal aliens.

Those unpaid costs affect all of society in higher costs for hospital services........except to the freeloader.

IMO the hospital has a valid expectation of getting paid............and not by the tax payer


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