Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSR) § 391.11(b)(2)
Can read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public, to understand highway traffic signs and signals in the English language, to respond to official inquiries, and to make entries on reports and records;
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
[Re: Lugnut]
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Cali gave that towel head a free pass to kill people .....no big deal...nothing will change
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
[Re: AntiGov]
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Cali gave that towel head a free pass to kill people .....no big deal...nothing will change Many states give a ton of people CDLs that shouldn't and the companies also turn a blind eye. I hope the insurance lobby goes nuts. My HS sweet heart (30 years ago) step dad couldn't read and could barely write. Her mom took the written test for him. Handed him his papers like it was a participation trophy and Estes hired him no questions asked.
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
[Re: Law Dog]
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Dealing with a truck driver that speaks English is like winning the lottery now days. Very true statement sir. I work in shipping and receiving in a local factory. I'm guessing about 80% of the drivers that come in are foreign. Some speak decent English, but we get frustrated every day with some that know just a few words, and even more annoying are the ones that speak no English and stick their phones in your face for Google Translate. We get a lot of Arabic drivers delivering coils of steel out of Canada. Most of them act like they will die if we don't get them unloaded instantly, even though we go by appointments. They may show up 12 hours before their appointment time and expect to get unloaded immediately. They don't care about the other drivers that are there at their actual appointment time. They seem to care about nothing but themselves getting unloaded and back on the road. They have no shame. They put there hands together and beg for us to get them in fast. I've had multiple american drivers tell me that they see them driving along with there feet up on the dash. Also many,many Ukraniun, Russian, Bosnian, and any other Nationality you can think of come in that barely know or don't know how to speak English. They follow the GPS to a T, often getting to the factory by using roads with a 10 ton weight limit instead of the truck route. Every now and then one will get a ticket for it, but not often. It is very scary who we have driving 80,000 pound rigs out there nowadays and something really needs to be done about it.
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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My HS sweet heart (30 years ago) step dad couldn't read and could barely write. Her mom took the written test for him. Handed him his papers like it was a participation trophy and Estes hired him no questions asked. I've always wondered about this , illiteracy is rare in the USA. However , some other countries it is kinda common in certain places. I've met a couple of illiterate US born people. They are very good at hiding the fact they are illiterate if they say , want no one to know. I knew of one guy who had a job in a supermarket. They would give him cases of cans to stock the shelves , but he could not read what was on the cans. So what he would do was take a can out the case , let's say it was colored green and had a picture of peas on it. He would look up and down the aisle for green cans. Then he would look at green cans closer to see which ones had the same pictures of peas. Then stock the shelf. He worked there for almost 2 years before someone figured out he couldn't read. Really good worker. About 50yo. They got him some help with some literacy volunteers so he could learn to read. How many of these illegals are illiterate ? And god forbid be driving a tractor trailer or something.
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
[Re: Lugnut]
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My Nephews friend is going for his CDL license...
Said he's the only white guy there...
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
[Re: Lugnut]
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The regulation is is there. Just not enforced. Who is preventing LE from putting those drivers out of service??????
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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Dealing with a truck driver that speaks English is like winning the lottery now days. Very true statement sir. I work in shipping and receiving in a local factory. I'm guessing about 80% of the drivers that come in are foreign. Some speak decent English, but we get frustrated every day with some that know just a few words, and even more annoying are the ones that speak no English and stick their phones in your face for Google Translate. We get a lot of Arabic drivers delivering coils of steel out of Canada. Most of them act like they will die if we don't get them unloaded instantly, even though we go by appointments. They may show up 12 hours before their appointment time and expect to get unloaded immediately. They don't care about the other drivers that are there at their actual appointment time. They seem to care about nothing but themselves getting unloaded and back on the road. They have no shame. They put there hands together and beg for us to get them in fast. I've had multiple american drivers tell me that they see them driving along with there feet up on the dash. Also many,many Ukraniun, Russian, Bosnian, and any other Nationality you can think of come in that barely know or don't know how to speak English. They follow the GPS to a T, often getting to the factory by using roads with a 10 ton weight limit instead of the truck route. Every now and then one will get a ticket for it, but not often. It is very scary who we have driving 80,000 pound rigs out there nowadays and something really needs to be done about it. Excellent post.
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
[Re: Lugnut]
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I am still wondering why lawdog, in accordance with D.O.T. regs, did not put those drivers out of service.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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The regulation is is there. Just not enforced. Who is preventing LE from putting those drivers out of service?????? But have a marker light out on a big rig and see what happens..
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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Bull crap The fact that upwards of ten million illegal aliens were allowed into our Country under the previous administration and were coddled and given healthcare, housing, SS numbers, drivers licenses and JOBS would be reasons closer to the truth.
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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The regulation is is there. Just not enforced. Who is preventing LE from putting those drivers out of service?????? But have a marker light out on a big rig and see what happens.. No kidding. They nitpick stuff like a marker light, or a ripped or missing mudflap, but the fact that the driver can't read or write English seems to get swept under the rug. How do you drive all over the US without being able to read road signs, detours etc?
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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three
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NEYotetrapper , I can explain a bit on why it appeared the van driver didn't slow down. I used to go to Florida a lot. I am very familiar with that exact piece of road. Been there many times.
My home base in Florida is in the Port St. Lucie/Stuart/Jensen Beach area. I would stay with friends I had there. Fort Pierce is one exit north of there on Florida's turnpike.
Florida's turnpike goes from that area to Orlando/Kissimmee area. It is a good way to save time than going north on I95 , then turning west on I4 to get to Kissimmee. You save about 1 hour plus.
Florida's turnpike is a toll road. Because of that the traffic is a lot lighter than I95 and I4. The exits are spaced apart a bit because every exit is also a toll plaza. As Florida's turnpike is more of an expressway than having exits every mile or so. Pleasant ride , low traffic , ya kinda kick back and put the cruise control on and enjoy the ride. Speed limits are about 70mph , so traffic flows at about 75mph.
With the low traffic , you pay less attention to knuckleheads swapping lanes every few moments.
The tractor trailer must have slowed almost to a stop to make it's illegal turn . It was probably in the extreme right lane to swing over. The mini van was probably in the left lane thinking it was passing a stopped/slow truck. When the truck had to slowly cross over to make it's illegal U turn , the minivan had almost no chance to slow down before impact. That's the explanation I heard. The trucker was pulled over on the right shoulder. The van driver must have thought it was safe to pass in the left lane. and the van driver probably didn't slow down. The trucker attempted to make a U turn suddenly causing the van driver to hit him.
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