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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458911
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I hate compounds, not real bows!
Recurves either, longbows is where it's at, the only TRUE bow hunting tool.
With flint you knapped yourself on the top of the wooden shaft you whittled out of a 2x4!!!

My purity test is purer than your purity test!!!

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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458912
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I don’t hate crossbows. What I do hate is the elitist attitude of some supposed sportsmen that are just as bad as antis in limiting participation in the outdoors. They fail to realize that we are all in this together. Cross/stick, hunt/trap, bait/hounds, fly/ worms, troll/cast …..The antis sit back and laugh while we attack each other.


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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458920
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I've always thought folks telling me what legal weapon I should or should not hunt with and what I should or should not call myself if I hunt with a particular weapon were arrogant, over-opinionated, under-educated jerkwads.

This post reinforces my thought that the members of the Crossbow Haters Club fit perfectly into that category.


Eh...wot?

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Raghorn67] #8458926
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Originally Posted by Raghorn67
Considering that the crossbow has been around in rudimentary fashion since 200-400 years before Christ. And the compound bow has only been breathing since the mid 60's . I'd say the crossbow has earned a spot in the woods.

That said, the majority of compound shooters have their bows equipped with the latest and greatest gear known to man. Kisser button,peep sight or some other device to hit the same anchor point with every draw. Probably 99% or more compound bow shooters are using a mechanical release that is, you guessed it trigger activated. And have somewhere between 65 & 80% let off.

What I don't see very often is someone that shoots a compound bow that can shoot a bare compound bow or stick bow. But stick bow/bare bow shooters can typically pick up one of those tricked out compound bows and be shooting good in short order.

I shot a Pronghorn Longbow for 30+ years until my shoulders would no longer allow it.
Now I shoot a crossbow. Not the top of the line, maybe not even middle of the pack. It's sighted in for 20 thru 50 yards. I shoot no further than 30-40 yards max at an animal and hunt on the ground,which most compound shooters have no clue how to do. There's no need to shoot further. The funny thing is that I run into people now and again that shoot crossbows and never hear about them trying to launch an arrow at a deer 100 yards out. I hear about it a lot from compound shooters. I always ask them why. And always get the same stupid look from them as they reply with "well I did it at home last month". Gotta shine that ego up before firearms season when they take their 6.5 Needmore out and send bullets 800 yards down range at a deer.

The crossbow has absolutely nothing over a compound bow in f p.s., more effective range or any other advantages.
For most people that shoot a crossbow, they're just trying to fill the freezer. Unlike most compound shooters that trade up every couple years to the latest and greatest bow on the market that are only after bragging rights about how much they have tied up in their bow.

I will take a crossbow over a compound bow anytime.


You need to reread my op. I never said crossbows have no place, I said they have no place in an ARCHERY season. You say they have no more effective range or speed than a compound. Maybe for some. But my 7 yo kid stacked bolts in a two inch group at 60 yards the first time he shot it.
You conclude there " isn't any other advantage " while totally ignoring the fact you don't need to draw the cross gun while game is present, you don't need to hold the bow back while waiting for an animal to present a shot, you can have a solid rest while aiming, and you have a scope and magnification. In what world do you hunt that these aren't advantages?? I haven't seen anyone on this thread be able to counter those points. Instead they say there's no difference without giving any qualification to that opinion. So... at least I have facts to back up my opinion.
Also, some on here say there's zero difference but quickly point out that they've shot most of their deer with a bow. If there's no more skill needed for a bow why point that out? But Thanks for reinforcing the point I'm making....

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458929
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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458931
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So you just want regular bows only during the 5-6 month long season?

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8458932
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
So you just want regular bows only during the 5-6 month long season?




Our archery season is around 6 weeks

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458937
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The bottom line is, if it's legal to use to take a game animal with, that's all that should matter. You could argue that one rifle shoots farther than the other so that's not fair. His muzzle loader uses a shotgun primer with powder pellets and has a scope, that's not fair. You can look at different weapons used in bow, gun and muzzleloader seasons and find advantages with one weapon over another in each season. Where does it end? If its legal and you want to use it go ahead. It has a string and shoots an arrow with a broadhead. Seems like archery equipment to me.

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458941
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Well put crane.

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458942
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
So you just want regular bows only during the 5-6 month long season?




Our archery season is around 6 weeks

Ours goes from the end of sept to end of january

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458944
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Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
So you just want regular bows only during the 5-6 month long season?




Our archery season is around 6 weeks


False

Our archery season is eleven weeks, 14 weeks if your in one of the special regulation areas.

Oh wait, as a purist archer you only hunt the six week rut season right? When bucks are all horny and stupid-acting chasing does at all hours of the day. When you have the absolute best chance of connecting with a buck all year.

Seems to me a hardcore, purist archer such as yourself would hunt all the seasons available to him. Heck, your bow is a legal weapon during ALL the deer seasons, including rifle, which would give you even more time afield. You could really extend your season if you took advantage of all that time.

Why don't you?


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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458946
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If you can break down why the cane pole was worse for fishing than a net, the fly rod over the cane pole, the spinning reel over the fly rod and the bait caster over the spinning reel, you’ll maybe win me over.

States set limits. Assuming these are followed, live and let live.

I have this conversation at work all the time. The guys that shoot traditional crap
On the compound guys and so on. Funny thing is that the ‘traditional’ guys use carbon arrows because wood is too expensive based on replacement. I’ve yet to see any of them nap a broadhead. Don’t think they’re twisting sinew for strings either.

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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458952
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Seems the guys that have "prime" land to hunt when they
want and no one else is allowed to hunt it are the 1's
that like to make the rules for everyone else.

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458955
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Really what you hate is competition and it adds a lot more hunters. Share and get over it.


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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8458956
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
So you just want regular bows only during the 5-6 month long season?



X2


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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458957
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You would think if you really wanted to be that hunter that lights up the woods and makes the angels sing you would be proficient with every weapon allowed not just the one you think you mastered. So I just need a atlatl to complete my list but my shoulders won’t allow that kind of movement.

Oh well


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Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458958
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Pure bowhunter jealousy, afraid some hunter will kill a buck they want. Hear all the same excuses, if my neighbor wants to kill a deer with a spear and does ethically and uses the meat. Not my business.

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Pafoxman] #8458961
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When I was younger and bowhunted almost exclusively, I fell into the rifle vs archery and bow vs crossbow disputes.

Then I grew up. Who cares? Worry about yourself.

P.S. it's the craziest thing. God keeps making deer. Lots of them. It will be OK.

PPS. The real problem is the State thinking it can tell me what weapon/traps/snares I can use on my property. Or arbitrary dates when I can hunt on my property.

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: Lugnut] #8458964
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False

Our archery season is eleven weeks, 14 weeks if your in one of the special regulation areas.

Oh wait, as a purist archer you only hunt the six week rut season right? When bucks are all horny and stupid-acting chasing does at all hours of the day. When you have the absolute best chance of connecting with a buck all year.

Seems to me a hardcore, purist archer such as yourself would hunt all the seasons available to him. Heck, your bow is a legal weapon during ALL the deer seasons, including rifle, which would give you even more time afield. You could really extend your season if you took advantage of all that time.

Why don't you?[/quote]

Actually I do! I hunt with my bow all the time during gun seasons; thanks for asking!
Our archery only season is 6 weeks. Obviously you can use a bow during gun season and I do. This is also the appropriate time to use crossbows if you want to hunt with one

Re: Who hates crossbows?? [Re: GUNNLEG] #8458967
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Originally Posted by GUNNLEG
If you can break down why the cane pole was worse for fishing than a net, the fly rod over the cane pole, the spinning reel over the fly rod and the bait caster over the spinning reel, you’ll maybe win me over.

States set limits. Assuming these are followed, live and let live.

I have this conversation at work all the time. The guys that shoot traditional crap
On the compound guys and so on. Funny thing is that the ‘traditional’ guys use carbon arrows because wood is too expensive based on replacement. I’ve yet to see any of them nap a broadhead. Don’t think they’re twisting sinew for strings either.

Fair point. My issue isn't with the guys that use them if it's legal, it's the state allowing it. (See my op)
If it was based on science and what was needed, then fine. But it's not, the crossbow industry has spent millions lobbying state politicians across the country. The people that have the power to legalize them have no clue about what's best management practices for the deer herd in their respective state

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