Re: Defending the 2A
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What anyone with a brain realizes is this can go nowhere. It won't happen.
But just saying it, fans the flames of the hateful fires the TDS sufferers live in.
This will never happen. For you folk who have lost your mind on this thread, do yo remember the quote "You are fake news!"? Do you understand why PRESIDENT TRUMPITO said this?
Truly a mental disorder. You're getting played like pianos and can't help yourselves.
But keep talking. PLEASE!
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Defending the 2A
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I believe we should all have guns , government getting into picking and choosing who is where government gets into trouble and unconstitutional begins.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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I believe we should all have guns , government getting into picking and choosing who is where government gets into trouble and unconstitutional begins. Of course
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Blatantly unconstitutional.
Congress makes law, not the executive.
The law says one must have been adjudicated mentally defective (by a judge) or committed to a mental institution. That clearly cannot be willy-nilly applied to a whole class of people. Congress is, of course, free to change the law if they want. But then they'd be on the record as being anti 2a, so they won't.
It doesn't matter if tranny behavior is labeled as a mental illness. That's not how the law works. You can be bipolar, for example, and still purchase a gun, as long as you haven't been adjudicated mentally defective or committed to a mental institution. Simply having a mental illness doesn't disqualify someone from owning a gun under current law.
If the executive can just declare that an entire group of people's can't own guns....how do you think that'll go next time a Democrat is in office?
(None of this should be a surprise, of course, coming from the president that's on camera talking about wanting to take guns first and go through due process second, while sitting right next to his AG.)
Now go ahead and tell me how supporting the 2a=TDS.
Put the checkers away. We're playing chess here. Of course he can't do this, and he knows that better than anyone.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Simmer down there, Yes Sir, lol. While Dirt's post had nothing to do with the topic at hand as far as I can see, it wasn't political, it was economical.
Proudly banned from the NTA.
Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Blatantly unconstitutional.
Congress makes law, not the executive.
The law says one must have been adjudicated mentally defective (by a judge) or committed to a mental institution. That clearly cannot be willy-nilly applied to a whole class of people. Congress is, of course, free to change the law if they want. But then they'd be on the record as being anti 2a, so they won't.
It doesn't matter if tranny behavior is labeled as a mental illness. That's not how the law works. You can be bipolar, for example, and still purchase a gun, as long as you haven't been adjudicated mentally defective or committed to a mental institution. Simply having a mental illness doesn't disqualify someone from owning a gun under current law.
If the executive can just declare that an entire group of people's can't own guns....how do you think that'll go next time a Democrat is in office?
(None of this should be a surprise, of course, coming from the president that's on camera talking about wanting to take guns first and go through due process second, while sitting right next to his AG.)
Now go ahead and tell me how supporting the 2a=TDS.
Just like red flag laws are not constitutional. Will this go anywhere absolutely not but its funny to think about the left defending gun rights.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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I am a Marine Corps veteran, a range coach, and a hunting guide. I’m about as pro-2A as a guy can be. The idea that anyone who opposes or thinks that the current president is garbage has “TDS” or whatever other nonsense you want to call it is just crazy to me. It’s even crazier how many grown adults have decided to act like children by being generally mean, if not downright hateful, just to “own the libs”. Do you even know any of these “libs” or are you just being a jerk? Yes I know some and a couple of them well. The rest are easy to spot- mostly high strung women and overly emotional men. They are especially easy to spot each and every time Donald J. Trump is mentioned...
What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded. Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Congress makes law, not the executive. True, but is the criteria regarding mental health reflected in the questions on the ATF form 4473 law actually passed by congress or is it regulation crafted by BATFE? Perhaps you know but I don't. If it is just regulation Trump can drive a change providing it doesn't conflict with the law. In any case, what Trump has done is keep focus on how mental health screening is being done in the NICS process. I see that as a good thing because the current process is obviously not working to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill intent on murder.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Congress makes law, not the executive. True, but is the criteria regarding mental health reflected in the questions on the ATF form 4473 law actually passed by congress or is it regulation crafted by BATFE? Perhaps you know but I don't. If it is just regulation Trump can drive a change providing it doesn't conflict with the law. In any case, what Trump has done is keep focus on how mental health screening is being done in the NICS process. I see that as a good thing because the current process is obviously not working to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill intent on murder. Don't buy into what it looks like you are. All good roads are paved with good intentions and all. Problem is who decided what's acceptable and what's not. Don't believe everything the government says, dont want to be forced to take a shot or close your business or waer a mask. No guns for you.. Only approved thought people can have them. watch what you ask for you won't like it when the left is in charge and it gets flipped on you and yours. Unless you believe the government knows best and you believe the crap that's pushed
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Re: Defending the 2A
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I am a Marine Corps veteran, a range coach, and a hunting guide. I’m about as pro-2A as a guy can be. The idea that anyone who opposes or thinks that the current president is garbage has “TDS” or whatever other nonsense you want to call it is just crazy to me. It’s even crazier how many grown adults have decided to act like children by being generally mean, if not downright hateful, just to “own the libs”. Do you even know any of these “libs” or are you just being a jerk? The libs I know are nice but they would take away the right to defend oneself in a heartbeat. The TDS sufferers would complain if Trump cured cancer....
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Don't buy into what it looks like you are. The point isn't what I a may or may not be "buying in to," but rather that the NICS process isn't working as intended with regard to mental health issues. The recent violence by trans (Audrey Hale, Robert Westman, etc) are just examples, the 2009 Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hisan, is another. The process needs a hard look and hopefully with get it.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Don't buy into what it looks like you are. The point isn't what I a may or may not be "buying in to," but rather that the NICS process isn't working as intended with regard to mental health issues. The recent violence by trans (Audrey Hale, Robert Westman, etc) are just examples, the 2009 Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hisan, is another. The process needs a hard look and hopefully with get it. It was never set up to and never will stop violent crime. But as your examples point out Trans people are clearly in crisis and seem to be easy to influence and have a severe mental issue. And why I think it should qualify as a no sale under the current 4473 ?s. But I prefer we go back to mail order guns to my door like it should be
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Not saying I agree or disagree with the idea, HOWEVER, it could open up a Pandoras box that results in other mental disorders to being banned from gun ownership. Not saying trannyism is or is not a mental Disorder ,at least not here, what happens when they say anxiety is a mental disorder, or a phobia is a mental disorder, snakes, heights, crowds, or when they say anyone with PTSD is mentally unstable and should be banned from gun ownership? How many vets, police, or other first responders that suffer from PTSD are suddenly banned from gun ownership? Where will it stop?
The job of a Patriot is not to protect his country but to protect the people from the tryannical government
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Re: Defending the 2A
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Not saying I agree or disagree with the idea, HOWEVER, it could open up a Pandoras box that results in other mental disorders to being banned from gun ownership. Not saying trannyism is or is not a mental Disorder ,at least not here, what happens when they say anxiety is a mental disorder, or a phobia is a mental disorder, snakes, heights, crowds, or when they say anyone with PTSD is mentally unstable and should be banned from gun ownership? How many vets, police, or other first responders that suffer from PTSD are suddenly banned from gun ownership? Where will it stop? Exactly 100% nailed it. Only solution Isee is get more people armed and trained so shooters get taken out quickly and effectively every time.
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Re: Defending the 2A
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How many mass shootings occurred before and after the closure of state nervous hospitals? The firearm is not the problem but the treatment methods for the mentally ill is the problem.
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