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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465337
09/07/25 06:30 PM
09/07/25 06:30 PM
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But... vaccines aren't mandated now, Bowhunter. You keep saying you like the way our system works now. That would be without mandatory vaccines.


Proudly banned from the NTA.

Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465345
09/07/25 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I am and always have been 100% against the covid vaccine. When I heard how it was made I knew it was bupkis. The things that were done to create that vaccine were completely money driven and in no way safe. When it was legislated the drug companies could never be sued, I knew then it was gonna be a train wreck.

I am against the hep B vaccine for newborns. Totally uncalled for.

I am 100% in agreement with mandatory TB vaccine.

Do you not like how the system we have in place has kept us nearly disease free from things people in Europe and Asia and Africa die from daily? I am very thankful we had a system in place to prevent the serious diseases.

So if personal choice over what goes into one's body is a winning strategy and they choose not to get the TB vaccine, what if they get TB? Who wins then? I can promise you local, state or federal government will pay for treatments and physical monitoring for 6-9 months. If not government, it will be insurance that is paid for by the consumer. And if the person with TB does not adhere to the treatment in total, they will be incarcerated until the treatment is complete and they test negative.

I like the freedom of not having to worry about having to pay for someone else's stupidity. That is a cost of freedom.

Again, who is in what box?



no what you want is to force your view onto others. You fail to see or at least adress simple facts and questions an keep repeating the same circle jerk.

So you ok with limited mandatory shots but only you can decide what's necessary. So how Would like it to have been 100% forced whan someone not you decided its mandatory to take that covid shots you were against.


That's the point you won't be who is making that call air will be someone like the last cdc guy.

Myself I will be on the side of personal choice. You will continue to wrap yourself in force people greater good.

That's great company you keep with that mind.set. Lots of famous people like that guy in Germany in the 30s and 40s.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465346
09/07/25 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
$5 for a rabies vaccine every three years at a rabies clinic.

That is $1.67/year. Pretty cheap if you ask me. Whole lot cheaper than titer testing for rabies efficacy after an exposure or putting a dog up at a vets office for 6 months.



Wrong !!!! The 5 dollar vaccines are yearly, not 3 years

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465349
09/07/25 06:41 PM
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Bowhunter27295, you never answered the mandatory

question on rabies and hystoplasmosis, you miss the question ?

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465352
09/07/25 06:43 PM
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Some people want/need the government to protect them--and restrict others' freedoms. See Tman Karen's many loud posts this weekend pushing this philosophy, again.

Some of us don't want the government screwing with our guns, money, land, bodies, religion or autonomy in general. We also don't meddle in the lives of others. We believe freedom is inherently good.

If I choose to be vaccinated because of reliable science and because I'm not stupid, it's my choice. Same if I don't.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465353
09/07/25 06:43 PM
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I worry about TB cause its getting more common. Like the covid shot its not very effective and has side effects.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465357
09/07/25 06:52 PM
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Had my share this afternoon, it was cool, rainy, and windy

Tomorrow is a fishing day......thanks for the fun

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: Blaine County] #8465361
09/07/25 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Some people want/need the government to protect them--and restrict others' freedoms. See Tman Karen's many loud posts this weekend pushing this philosophy, again.

Some of us don't want the government screwing with our guns, money, land, bodies, religion or autonomy in general. We also don't meddle in the lives of others. We believe freedom is inherently good.

If I choose to be vaccinated because of reliable science and because I'm not stupid, it's my choice. Same if I don't.

Wow, I agree with you on this.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465369
09/07/25 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Providence Farm

That's great company you keep with that mind.set. Lots of famous people like that guy in Germany in the 30s and 40s.


Oh wow, you just compared me to Hitler.

Gosh you just beat me. Everyone knows when you compare someone to Hitler, you just won the argument.

Carry on pf.


Just pointing out its the same though process Him the Russian and the Chinese among many other use.

And No you dont agree with Blain. He believes it an individuals choice, you very clearly would like to see what you approve of to be mandatory. Massive difference the 100% opposite infact. Clearly somehow lost to you like that you can't counter facts like your beliefs are tha same line pushed by the world's largest mass murders. That's not saying you are them just its the exact same Way they present the reasons they mandated things and used to get the general population to go along with it.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465370
09/07/25 07:05 PM
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You can’t get out of a vet clinic for $5 period.

But it’s not just about the money. It’s an example of requiring something that in the vast majority of cases isn’t needed.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465376
09/07/25 07:14 PM
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My dogs have always hunted and got rabies vaccine. It used to be cheap you could get it mail order. The vet assoc has successfully lobbied to end that along with antibiotics. Now what used to cost a buck or two starts as 50 bucks for the office call.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465377
09/07/25 07:18 PM
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Bowhunter BR549 l was just thinking, yeah it’s like my last two brain cells collided. Kinda like a spark knock.
You got me thinking about the people who forced everyone to take the covid vaccines are the same ones who came up with Obozo Care
for people who could not afford health care. They then fined people who didn’t have it because they couldn’t afford Obozo Care!
They discharged members of the military who served with distinction because they refused to take other not knowing the long term results.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465381
09/07/25 07:20 PM
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I agree rabies vaccine is a great thing and should be required. Just not every year for a dogs life when vaccination and boosted the next year gives life long protection.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465383
09/07/25 07:23 PM
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Oh...that reminds me....I got my rabies vaccine a couple years ago grin The CDC specifically lists trappers a a risk category so it was free though insurance.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465402
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I'm waiting on the "legal drugs" fanatics to chime in.

I am guessing it will be crickets instead.

Do you really need to start that again? Must be bored.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: trapdog1] #8465405
09/07/25 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I'm waiting on the "legal drugs" fanatics to chime in.

I am guessing it will be crickets instead.

Do you really need to start that again? Must be bored.


Tman Karen.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465459
09/07/25 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Providence Farm


Just pointing out its the same though process Him the Russian and the Chinese among many other use.

And No you dont agree with Blain. He believes it an individuals choice, you very clearly would like to see what you approve of to be mandatory. Massive difference the 100% opposite infact. Clearly somehow lost to you like that you can't counter facts like your beliefs are tha same line pushed by the world's largest mass murders. That's not saying you are them just its the exact same Way they present the reasons they mandated things and used to get the general population to go along with it.


Now I am like Mao and Stalin. Wanting to murder millions.

Keep talking pf, please.


I see your being disingenuous becuse i dont think your thick enough you can't see the clear point of it's the same excuse and line of thinking they used. then again I have been wrong giving the benefit of the doubt before.

typical Of you to yet again avoid answering. How you would like or address being forced to take a.the covid shots and boosters as so many wanted to make the entire country. Trust the science don't put everyone at risk.

the thing is it won't be your personally approved list thats required to take. But keep on dancing around and avoid the question.


Last edited by Providence Farm; 09/07/25 10:41 PM.
Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465531
09/08/25 08:07 AM
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Man !!!!! What a post !!!!!! Think I will stick to Strictly Trapping for a while. ...................the (old fashioned) mike

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465543
09/08/25 08:25 AM
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Interesting. Didn't read through the whole thread... So someone doesn't get vaccinated and gets the illness then insurance shouldn't pay for treatment and lifelong issues should be paid for out of pocket and no disability. However there is no way that would be the case.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465593
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Well think about this.

What happens when viruses are treated and are unable to perpetuate themselves? Now granted, measles virus is different that covid virus but can someone tell me what happens when a virus is allowed to perpetuate in a population en masse?

I believe science will tell you that everytime a virus replicates it degrades and becomes weaker. Not sure however about the man made ones like covid.


Just the right amount of whelm.
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