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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465383
09/07/25 07:23 PM
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Oh...that reminds me....I got my rabies vaccine a couple years ago grin The CDC specifically lists trappers a a risk category so it was free though insurance.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: loosegoose] #8465385
09/07/25 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Oh...that reminds me....I got my rabies vaccine a couple years ago grin The CDC specifically lists trappers a a risk category so it was free though insurance.


Mine was paid for through my insurance also. Whole lot cheaper life-wise that way. But I had near zero potential of giving rabies to someone else. Not sure of side effects of the vaccine, but it beats the alternative.


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465402
09/07/25 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I'm waiting on the "legal drugs" fanatics to chime in.

I am guessing it will be crickets instead.

Do you really need to start that again? Must be bored.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: trapdog1] #8465403
09/07/25 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I'm waiting on the "legal drugs" fanatics to chime in.

I am guessing it will be crickets instead.

Do you really need to start that again? Must be bored.


lol!! Just like banging the gong.


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: trapdog1] #8465405
09/07/25 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I'm waiting on the "legal drugs" fanatics to chime in.

I am guessing it will be crickets instead.

Do you really need to start that again? Must be bored.


Tman Karen.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465409
09/07/25 08:03 PM
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You will be held in contempt with one more comment counselor.

You were told to sit down.

Now sit down. You have no relevance here.


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465459
09/07/25 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Providence Farm


Just pointing out its the same though process Him the Russian and the Chinese among many other use.

And No you dont agree with Blain. He believes it an individuals choice, you very clearly would like to see what you approve of to be mandatory. Massive difference the 100% opposite infact. Clearly somehow lost to you like that you can't counter facts like your beliefs are tha same line pushed by the world's largest mass murders. That's not saying you are them just its the exact same Way they present the reasons they mandated things and used to get the general population to go along with it.


Now I am like Mao and Stalin. Wanting to murder millions.

Keep talking pf, please.


I see your being disingenuous becuse i dont think your thick enough you can't see the clear point of it's the same excuse and line of thinking they used. then again I have been wrong giving the benefit of the doubt before.

typical Of you to yet again avoid answering. How you would like or address being forced to take a.the covid shots and boosters as so many wanted to make the entire country. Trust the science don't put everyone at risk.

the thing is it won't be your personally approved list thats required to take. But keep on dancing around and avoid the question.


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465531
09/08/25 08:07 AM
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Man !!!!! What a post !!!!!! Think I will stick to Strictly Trapping for a while. ...................the (old fashioned) mike

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465543
09/08/25 08:25 AM
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Interesting. Didn't read through the whole thread... So someone doesn't get vaccinated and gets the illness then insurance shouldn't pay for treatment and lifelong issues should be paid for out of pocket and no disability. However there is no way that would be the case.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: Providence Farm] #8465579
09/08/25 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I see your being disingenuous becuse i dont think your thick enough you can't see the clear point of it's the same excuse and line of thinking they used. then again I have been wrong giving the benefit of the doubt before.

typical Of you to yet again avoid answering. How you would like or address being forced to take a.the covid shots and boosters as so many wanted to make the entire country. Trust the science don't put everyone at risk.

the thing is it won't be your personally approved list thats required to take. But keep on dancing around and avoid the question.


I didn't trust the science. I understood the science. It was wrong, from what I know and was told, from day one. I called BS as soon as it came out. Ask anyone.

And as far as what you think you know about the most common sense counselor on tman, ask him what I pointed out about covid and the jab on private message. Ask him what he said about his employees getting the jab. He's a lawyer and I will bet money he will not tell you the truth or will ignore you. Guaranteed. Everyone who has been here a while knows where he stood and what he typed as his opinion. I would be very careful who you hitch your horse to cause it might just drag you off a cliff.

Again and again, I have pointed out I am looking at the ability to individually look at each immunization. Just as RFK is wanting to do in making all the information available to whoever wants it. The success we have had scientifically with disease in America is nothing short of miraculous. However, you think we should change things to third world status. I get your cry of freedom, but like you and some of your cohorts have stated, freedom has a price. I totally agree with this statement, but my freedom is a freedom that is one to maintain the health standard this country enjoys. Yours and your cohorts will only make the country worse. Now you can argue freedom and I get that. But what freedom are you arguing?

Mao, Stalin and Hitler murdered millions of people as madmen in the name of power. This was their line of thinking.

Pasteur, Plotkin, Hilleman, Jenner and many others created vaccines that SAVED millions of lives. This was their line of thinking.

I hope you can see the difference. But I am sure you will come back with your William Wallace cry of freedom and think you are righteous and I am ok with murdering people. You may not think I am thick enough, but I definitely think you are dense.

And yet again, please, keep typing pf.


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465593
09/08/25 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Well think about this.

What happens when viruses are treated and are unable to perpetuate themselves? Now granted, measles virus is different that covid virus but can someone tell me what happens when a virus is allowed to perpetuate in a population en masse?

I believe science will tell you that everytime a virus replicates it degrades and becomes weaker. Not sure however about the man made ones like covid.


Just the right amount of whelm.
Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: Bigbrownie] #8465597
09/08/25 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I’m old enough to have only received a polio vaccine. All the other viruses that they immunize for today , I ended up catching. Measles, Chicken Pox, Mumps…. It was no fun, got extremely ill with measles, almost killed me. Parents are making a big mistake not getting their kids immunized.

And there are some among us who can’t receive immunizations. Those who haven’t been vaccinated by choice are putting those folks at risk.

Truth

My Dad got Polio in 1944 lost almost all of his right side .Zero reason not to vaccinate for Polio, measles, mumps
tetanus


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465611
09/08/25 12:35 PM
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I just finished a short book titled Everything is Tuberculosis by John Green. Very interesting book. TB is very much with us today in 3rd world countries.

Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: bowhunter27295] #8465613
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I see your being disingenuous becuse i dont think your thick enough you can't see the clear point of it's the same excuse and line of thinking they used. then again I have been wrong giving the benefit of the doubt before.

typical Of you to yet again avoid answering. How you would like or address being forced to take a.the covid shots and boosters as so many wanted to make the entire country. Trust the science don't put everyone at risk.

the thing is it won't be your personally approved list thats required to take. But keep on dancing around and avoid the question.


I didn't trust the science. I understood the science. It was wrong, from what I know and was told, from day one. I called BS as soon as it came out. Ask anyone.

And as far as what you think you know about the most common sense counselor on tman, ask him what I pointed out about covid and the jab on private message. Ask him what he said about his employees getting the jab. He's a lawyer and I will bet money he will not tell you the truth or will ignore you. Guaranteed. Everyone who has been here a while knows where he stood and what he typed as his opinion. I would be very careful who you hitch your horse to cause it might just drag you off a cliff.

Again and again, I have pointed out I am looking at the ability to individually look at each immunization. Just as RFK is wanting to do in making all the information available to whoever wants it. The success we have had scientifically with disease in America is nothing short of miraculous. However, you think we should change things to third world status. I get your cry of freedom, but like you and some of your cohorts have stated, freedom has a price. I totally agree with this statement, but my freedom is a freedom that is one to maintain the health standard this country enjoys. Yours and your cohorts will only make the country worse. Now you can argue freedom and I get that. But what freedom are you arguing?

Mao, Stalin and Hitler murdered millions of people as madmen in the name of power. This was their line of thinking.

Pasteur, Plotkin, Hilleman, Jenner and many others created vaccines that SAVED millions of lives. This was their line of thinking.

I hope you can see the difference. But I am sure you will come back with your William Wallace cry of freedom and think you are righteous and I am ok with murdering people. You may not think I am thick enough, but I definitely think you are dense.

And yet again, please, keep typing pf.


Im not saying one vac is good or that one is bad. Clearly some of the old ones have been amazing and positive effects. I see all your points.

Maybe im not clear on mine so I will try one more time with nothing added to clutter it up.

If x,y,z vax are mandatory and A,B,C optional it won't be you who picked what goes in each category or if a new one gets added to the mandatory category.

A large part of the country DID want the covid vax mandatory. It was clearly not effective and it didn't add up to anyone that looked. That won't stop it from being mandatory if the government says it needs to be if they can make vax mandatory.

So with your looking at it knowing yap no thanks not taking that. How will you like it when things you don't agree with become mandatory?


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: 330-Trapper] #8465619
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Bigbrownie
I’m old enough to have only received a polio vaccine. All the other viruses that they immunize for today , I ended up catching. Measles, Chicken Pox, Mumps…. It was no fun, got extremely ill with measles, almost killed me. Parents are making a big mistake not getting their kids immunized.

And there are some among us who can’t receive immunizations. Those who haven’t been vaccinated by choice are putting those folks at risk.

Truth

My Dad got Polio in 1944 lost almost all of his right side .Zero reason not to vaccinate for Polio, measles, mumps
tetanus

You have a valid point, But I guess those that had reactions and autism also have valid points.


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Re: Hey freedom lovers!!! [Re: Diggerman] #8465633
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Well think about this.

What happens when viruses are treated and are unable to perpetuate themselves? Now granted, measles virus is different that covid virus but can someone tell me what happens when a virus is allowed to perpetuate in a population en masse?

I believe science will tell you that everytime a virus replicates it degrades and becomes weaker. Not sure however about the man made ones like covid.


The newer strains of COVID are weaker


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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
If x,y,z vax are mandatory and A,B,C optional it won't be you who picked what goes in each category or if a new one gets added to the mandatory category.

How will you like it when things you don't agree with become mandatory?


With RFK in the seat I would definitely not be too worried about how safe a vaccine would be. Some vaccines that are now involuntary mandatory have some questions to answer. The only one bringing up these questions is RFK. He doesn't care what the Pharma industry is pushing. He wants to see the evidence. I have no doubt if a vaccine was effective and SAFE, he would continue to make it involuntary mandatory. If it is not safe, he will make them illegal.

And to answer your question, I have faith, at this moment, in RFK and knowing he will fight to make sure all vaccinations are effective and SAFE. It comes down to who is heading the DHHS and how bought and paid for they are. If some of the vaccinations are cleared under his leadership and are still involuntary mandatory, I will have no problem if any of my family gets that vaccine.

Just always know, there is not one vaccine that has not had an adverse reaction on someone. NOT ONE. This is because everyone's body chemistry is different. That is accepted science. There are also vaccines that were pushed into the population that were unsafe for a lot of people. Look at the original polio vaccine. It was a nightmare. Then it was adjusted and became very effective. Thank GOD for that as polio is a horrible and debilitating disease.


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You all sure get wound up over a little hypothetical question. crazy

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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
You all sure get wound up over a little hypothetical question. crazy



I think they need a hobby or something.


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