Question about the rustoleum/acetone dip. Once the paint is thinned, can it be stored? Shelf life after thinning?

Thanks.

I don’t believe so because your acetone will evaporate

Can you add more acetone to thin the mix again? Or does it change the paint also during the evaporation?

That I am unsure of. I usually have enough traps to where there’s not much leftover dip worth keeping.

I don't dip in paint but seems likely if you store leftovers in a sealed container like a p[aint can it would keep after all acetone comes in a can

That's what I was thinking of doing. I wasn't sure if the mix would go bad, or have a really short shelf life.

Get a funnel, pour the left over paint mix BACK INTO THE METAL ACETONE CAN. Tighten that lid as best you can. I have saved mine for up to 1.5 years in the metal cans but don't try any plastic bucket or container for the obvious reasons. Plenty of good info on Youtube about different mixes for trap dip so would direct you to view them for their mixes AND storage also. My Experience. ..............................the mike

I tried it once and it didn't keep. Had a different consistency later that extra acetone would not fix.

Posted the same time as Wife. It may work in the acetone can but did not work in a metal paint can with metal lid.

I've got it in metal paint cans and in the acetone can.
I've had absolutely no problems
It settles and has to be stirred
Have been doing this for 4-5 years with no problems

Turkey Time. What problems did you have in the paint can that couldn't be solved by stirring?

Paint seemingly had separated and wouldn't smooth out with more acetone.

Interesting 50/50 split maybe the acetone breaks down the color molecules over time Wonder if the brand of paint makes a difference Did anyone compare water based with oil based paint?

The top sheet of hardened stuff has to be remover, we used to then screen the rest. That is years ago with the old oil bases paints in a boat yards in the '50s

Yes, but don’t let it get too cold. I’ve used it the next season. I can’t say I’ve kept it for longer than that. I out it in paint cans bought new at the paint store. I just keep adding to it.

Thanks everyone.

Regarding the ratio, I am reading and hearing more and more about going 60/40 Acetone to paint, or even 2:1 acetone to paint.

Do this and it will keep during storage. Have to mix well before using.

I tried storing mine back in the cans and it turned to a big block of jello. Not sure why but it was sealed air tight.

Remnant storage aside, the other alternative that is recommended is mineral oil vs. acetone. I've tried both and acetone dries faster and to me give a more durable finish. No more mineral spirits for me.

1 part Rustoleum rusty metal primer : 1 part Rustoleum flat black paint : 2 parts acetone. Flat color about like a Hershey chocolate bar.

Kyle, the short answer is yes.

From www.laballey.com/blogs/blog/how-to-store-acetone-and-paint?

Acetone is not only used as a paint removal aid; it is also sometimes used as a paint thinner. Therefore, paints containing acetone must also comply with safe storage regulations. Paints [ as well as acetone ] are flammable, heat-sensitive, and can produce noxious fumes. Proper storage is essential to your health and safety, as well as prolonging the shelf life of your products. Like acetone itself, paint should be stored away from heat and ignition sources to mitigate the risk of fire. Ideally, the paint will be stored in a flammable-proof cabinet, in a dry, cool, and well-ventilated area. You may need to arrange climate control and mechanical ventilation.

Keep in mind that acetone will evaporated until it reaches it stabilization partial pressure in a sealed container. Always store with a secured, sealed cap or cover. Acetone is extremely flammable in and of itself and is toxic to inhale. Do not store in an inhabited space. And with paints, cold temperatures will cause oil based paints to thicken but they will return to viscosity with warming temperature. Acetone and oil based paint will layer over time, they just need to be remixed. Never add acetone to any water based paint!

If you don't want to store the excess mix, call me I'll pick it up ... Lol

Again, thanks for all the help.

Another question. How much paint does it take? I know it depends on what type of container (size wise). I am thinking a plastic tub just big enough to lay a 330 in, and do footholds. Couple dozen of each. 3 gallons? 4?

If you can manage to find the perfect size container 3 quarts of mix goes along ways.I’ve had mixed results on keeping mix.Letting it get to hot is not good either.

It's moee of an issue of what depth of paint you need in the container to submerge the trap in. Those 330s have a big hole in the middle not using up any paint. Obviously,1 gallon of paint makes 2 gallons of mix ( little less than 1/2 of a 5 gallon pail ). Just make sure that whatever container you use, the acetone doesn't attach it.

How much paint needed is going to depend on whether you single or double dip, the size of the footholds and how much patience and time you have (dipping single or gang dip).

Not to hijack the thread, but can you use gas instead of acetone? Eric

If we are talking about pump gasoline, I personally wouldn't for two reasons ... First is the 'additive packages' that each gasoline manufacture blend into their unleaded fuels and second is the mix of alcohol in unleaded fuel these days. Chemically the polarity of acetone and gasoline are opposites which affects how they combine, or not, with other materials on the molecular level.

Back in the day, before automotive unleaded fuel, you could purchase what was referred to as ' white gas ' which was, don't want to say ... Pure ... unleaded gasoline without any alterations at very select service stations. I can remember my dad going and getting a gallon at a time to use for stripping oil and grease off of engine parts he was tearing down and rebuilding.

I use latex outdoor paint thinned with water to dip/coat my kill poles. It really holds up well on them. I don't know why you'd use something that has to mixed with acetone and is a mess to clean up. The exterior latex paint cleans up with water.

when storing any liquid in containers-paint, dip mix, etc. I store the cans upside down, seems to last longer this way.
But first, it is a good idea to put them upside down in a container like a one gallon ice cream pail to make sure the lid is sealed and doesn't leak

used to dip auto parts many years ago. I used rustoleum paint. But I floated the paint on water so very little was req'd.
Had to be slow and easy on the dip and removal.
Can't recall if I thinned the paint, don't think so tho.

ADC, do you use the same ratio water:paint?

If adhesion is the same, I'd think latex would be alot easier to deal with.

I use about 2-3 parts paint to 1 part water. Kind of by feel... I never used the other paint but this stuff holds up great on my killpoles. I get it from Sherwin Williams in their mis tinted paints for $7/gallon and have them add whatever it needs to get it a darker camo color if I don't like the color it already is.

Good tip on the mis-tint. I'll ask at the local paint place.

Good luck k snow. I hope you find a combination you like.