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Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471298
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Ive heard some pretty stupid threats made by anti-hunters too.


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Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471301
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Originally Posted by ol' dad
Originally Posted by Randy Wieland
I've been following this on a CO hunting facebook group page and there are some very concerning factors that may lead to dirty play.

Officials gained access to their Garmin and tracked the GPS pins. The two had hiked their equipment out and back to their car, which was located at the trail head with everything except their bows. Strange was the amount of time and dropped pins in a meadow along the route back to their car. The pings continue and show them back at their car where the garmin was turned off and the pings stop.

A HUGE speculation among people watching this is that they may have encountered thieves breaking into their car when they got back from their final trip of packing out gear. Again, that is a HUGE speculation but makes sense.

link has their GPS cords

https://www.facebook.com/bridget.murphy.910716/posts/122240111360163661?__cft__[0]=AZXBVt1f4mfznXp97tO4vA3eYXYccOi-G6cS0g990wMb2uXZ9ratZcBiM3gRI1TwinDvCtKbOgPrwTTfZe5kwwWDdvftpOIN3-qVPZDC-xFFfp2EHu8-xnTFHQqAKECbfKtQB8xdtWBk-hsPtYMCfHYzHSnrQi70FVy1OEXbwHXR8dvMIIs59lzivTtNtHbVeJT-oXpKq0LEZfOpNByzL640dI6GAtOphRxrQjjTM7nbbA&__tn__=-UK-R


I heard their gear was left in the car but not the bows. Some suggest they went out for a quick, close-by hunt. But your speculation is plausible for sure. I just can't think what scenario would leave them both absent in this instance other than malice or a freak accident (lighting strike, tree fall, or rock slide)???.

ol 'dad


It sure creates some weird circumstances. As an avid bow hunter and a lifetime hunter in the mountains, I can not comprehend why they would turn off their GPS and not take that with them if they went for a quick hunt/scout trip. It just does not make sense. Especially for an evening stalk. Had they shot an elk, pretty standard procedure would be to drop a waypoint on point of impact and any sign of where the animal traveled towards. Additionally, navigating any dark woods at night can be extremely disorientating. More than once I have been twisted around under the dark canopy.


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Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471348
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What would the cartels be doing in the middle of that wilderness? Again, prayers for their safe return.


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Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471374
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An update on FB by the family says they were seen at a trailhead by other hunter and stated they saw a big bull.
They headed out Friday to chase the bull taking their phones, a Garmin InReach, bows, knives, game bags and light clothing.
Weather moved in either that day or next.

Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471423
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If they left unprepared it can end poorly. Here on the edge of the desert at 6100 feet its been 38-39 degrees every morning since Friday. Top of the mesa north of me 10,000 feet has been in the mid 20's. Hard to survive that if your wet, tired, and turned around.






Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471434
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I wouldn't think that it would be a case of hypothermia etc as they could have activated their in-reach. Assuming the batteries weren't dead.

Ol dad

Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471724
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The South Sand Juan Wilderness does have Grizzles ED Wiseman killed a pregnate sow a few years ago. He and his client were attacked after killing a cow elk. ED killed the Bear with a arrow pulled from the bow quiver . Quite a story !

Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471767
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Following this on Rokslide (hunting forum)

All kinds of speculation

They headed out to chase a "big elk" was the last anyone saw or heard of them.

Someone suggested mudslide (storms in the area) or rockslide could have swallowed them up. Sounds and looks plausible based on sat imaging of the area and their plotted route

Hope they are found alive but each day that passes makes that less likely

Experienced, young and fit so those factors give hope

Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: T. MITCHELL] #8471786
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Originally Posted by T. MITCHELL
The South Sand Juan Wilderness does have Grizzles ED Wiseman killed a pregnate sow a few years ago. He and his client were attacked after killing a cow elk. ED killed the Bear with a arrow pulled from the bow quiver . Quite a story !

How many though? Killing one dont mean they are running all over.


"You skin that one pilgrim."



Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: Sasquatch91] #8471794
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch91
Originally Posted by T. MITCHELL
The South Sand Juan Wilderness does have Grizzles ED Wiseman killed a pregnate sow a few years ago. He and his client were attacked after killing a cow elk. ED killed the Bear with a arrow pulled from the bow quiver . Quite a story !

How many though? Killing one dont mean they are running all over.



I believe the ed wiseman occurrence happened 40 years ago. There are no resident griz in Colorado today.


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If one was to ask the Colorado DNR for sure. Don’t remind them though, they will certainly “reintroduce” them for the better of society as a whole..


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Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: T. MITCHELL] #8471805
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Originally Posted by T. MITCHELL
The South Sand Juan Wilderness does have Grizzles ED Wiseman killed a pregnate sow a few years ago. He and his client were attacked after killing a cow elk. ED killed the Bear with a arrow pulled from the bow quiver . Quite a story !



Closer to 50 years ago that this happened. Last on before that was in the mid 50'S






Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471808
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Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471818
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It sure does sound like another human was involved.

I would hope anyone going into the backcountry would at bare minimum have a lighter in their pocket. I don't smoke but carry a lighter everywhere I go. It's too easy.

If a cartel is involved, they will never be found.

Not looking good.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: ol' dad] #8471861
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People do weird things under the throws of hypothermia, activating an InReach might not be 1st in their mind then.

I hope a big cat didn't burry them somewhere near an elk kill.


An elderly man walked away from a camp here in Wyoming many years back and was never seen again, it was in a very popular area for elk hunters too.
Lots of carnivores out here that will eat anything.

Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: wytex] #8471865
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Originally Posted by wytex
People do weird things under the throws of hypothermia, activating an InReach might not be 1st in their mind then.

I hope a big cat didn't burry them somewhere near an elk kill.


An elderly man walked away from a camp here in Wyoming many years back and was never seen again, it was in a very popular area for elk hunters too.
Lots of carnivores out here that will eat anything.


The above scenarios would be reasonable to believe if it was a single hunter. But two, especially young and fit, with experience in the outdoors, in my opinion is unlikely.

Ol dad

Re: Couple hunters missing in Southern Colorado. [Re: bowhunter27295] #8471871
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
It sure does sound like another human was involved.

I would hope anyone going into the backcountry would at bare minimum have a lighter in their pocket. I don't smoke but carry a lighter everywhere I go. It's too easy.

If a cartel is involved, they will never be found.

Not looking good.

I always carry two lighters, a combination compass, a whistle, and a small flashlight everywhere I go. I also carry fishing line and a hook in my boots. You never know when you might need it.

Praying they are safe


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