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Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: white marlin] #8475332
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Originally Posted by white marlin
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Why doesn't Ukraine join NATO? Putin has made it clear that he doesn't want them to do that.


if Ukraine were accepted into NATO during this time of active warfare, we (and the other NATO countries) would be legally bound to join the war against Russia.

can you say "World War III"?


This is how they take out Eastern Europe who refuses to rush to their own demise by bringing in Africans/Mid East "refugees"

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475338
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I don't understand what you mean.

please clarify.

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Trapper7] #8475340
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Why doesn't Ukraine join NATO? Putin has made it clear that he doesn't want them to do that.

They can't. Countries that are actively at war aren't allowed to join NATO.

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475344
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I believe diplomacy and negotiations have been on going since 2014.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: white marlin] #8475345
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I don't understand what you mean.

please clarify.


Western Europe is speeding their demise by importing dissimilar populations, Eastern Europe is resisting that. A large war would destroy Eastern Europe and keep the EU together and Western Europe leading despite their poor decisions.

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475360
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"Sanctions are a key instrument of diplomacy, used by states and international organizations to express disapproval, pressure actors to change behavior, and uphold international norms without resorting to military force.
They serve as a non-military means of coercion, ranging from diplomatic measures like expelling diplomats or closing embassies to economic restrictions such as trade bans and asset freezes."

FYI


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Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475451
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I don't know what your media is telling you, but the best thing Trump could do would be to remove this corrupt regime in Ukraine.
If Ukraine had 8 Million ethnic US-Americans (like it had ethnic Russians), what would you do if they were attact by these rassist folks? You would stand by them, as Putin does with the Russians.
The Galicians you are supporting with your money and weapons used to fight at Hitler's side und killed thousands of Jews and Polish and are still worshipping Nazi collaborator Stephan Bandera.


Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475454
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Always good to see a view from another angle.
Thanks for posting Manfred

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475459
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why are we still buying items from Russia?

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: rex123] #8475469
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Originally Posted by rex123
why are we still buying items from Russia?


Because the U.S. needs the stuff. It is only 3 billion worth of trade. Not going to hurt Russia much by not buying 3 billion worth of products.


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Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475479
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So why do we get so up set when other countries buy from Russia dont they do it for the same reason we do?

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: rex123] #8475480
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Originally Posted by rex123
So why do we get so up set when other countries buy from Russia dont they do it for the same reason we do?


The U.S. is just trying to put the squeeze on Russia. We have little economic squeeze on Russia since we have very little trade with them.


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Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475496
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Trump is trying to get the european countries to boycott Russia, apply economic pressure, and get more skin in the game. ( They won't)

Europe wants us to fight Russia for them, kill our soldiers, and hopefully pay the bill as well.

It's okay to take out Russia as long as it's our choice, but not Europe's.


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Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475502
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Europe has more skin in the game than the U.S. They have been switching to high priced LNG. All this affects them way more than the U.S. Other than Texas making bank selling Europe LNG. smile

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Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Dirt] #8475507
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Europe has more skin in the game than the U.S. They have been switching to high priced LNG. All this affects them way more than the U.S. Other than Texas making bank selling Europe LNG. smile


We've crashed our agriculture exports to China whos invested a pile into other BRICS countries (Brazil) in response to the U.S trade wars over Ukraine. There's currently talk about a "once in a generation" farm crisis.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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Europe has more skin in the game than the U.S. They have been switching to high priced LNG. All this affects them way more than the U.S. Other than Texas making bank selling Europe LNG. smile


We've crashed our agriculture exports to China whos invested a pile into other BRICS countries (Brazil) in response to the U.S trade wars over Ukraine. There's currently talk about a "once in a generation" farm crisis.


Thank you Trump for all your tariffs.

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475512
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The U.S became an unreliable source of grain and meat when tariffs started in 2018 in regards to Russian/Ukrainian war. Once that ball was in motion the U.S had little ability to stop it.

Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475513
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475661
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As it stands, with Zelinski in control, the conflict is not much different than what exists in many American inner cities. Not much more than a gang war without a "good guy ".
Putin is annoyed that Gorbachev gave away the empire before he got the chance to become emperor (premier).
It is often said that Russia lost 20 million lives in WW2, but that was actually USSR and many of those people were from places that are no longer controlled by Moscow.


I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
Re: Ukraine 180 [Re: Blaine County] #8475686
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No more money to Ukkraine!


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